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    East Coast Speed Machines Erik W. Treves's Avatar
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    The official numbers are in - it's kinda been crazy since SEMA but was able to locate a Hub Dyno close to me - must have been a sign I guess....

    I will post more later but the quick numbers are

    658RWHP on 93 @ 10psi
    1028RWHP on E85 @ 18.5psi

    very happy with the end result and met the design goal. The truck also drives soooo nice.



    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik W. Treves View Post
    The official numbers are in - it's kinda been crazy since SEMA but was able to locate a Hub Dyno close to me - must have been a sign I guess....

    I will post more later but the quick numbers are

    658RWHP on 93 @ 10psi
    1028RWHP on E85 @ 18.5psi

    very happy with the end result and met the design goal. The truck also drives soooo nice.



    WOW Erik!!! those are some very stout numbers!!!

    Your daily driver is actually drag truck!

    you will be able to tow your coupe to the strip on the 93 octane tune, do a few passes on the drag strip with the coupe. Fill the truck with E85, switch the tune and probably put down a better pass with the tow truck!! 4WD launches are your friend.

    Well done!
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    Nice that the numbers are at relatively low RPMs also. Looks like more power than you probably need after about 5000 RPM, even with pump gas.
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    yes- I agree - but that was the goal

    Anyway - here it is the Data.... The DBR Performance folks were really good - they gave me all the data I wanted and even gave me a folder with all the charts printed out... Drove the truck home yesterday - and WOW - street only tune vs Dyno Tune + Street Tune after = WOW WOW WOW.... the power is obviously incredible, but the drivability is super - both start up, cold manners, low speed and highway cruise.... it really makes the overall XTF experience perfect... Looking out the front windshield you honestly wouldn't realize that you have a full race truck around you.... the only really noticeable thing is how smooth and in the road the truck is... drives more like a performance car but with the benefits of a long wheel base and long travel suspension. It's really hard to put into words - but this isn't a F150 ride at all.....period!!!

    Keep in mind my truck has all emissions items still in place; IMRC's still active; Aftermarket Cats - I also have electronic open dumps; we did a back to back comparison between running through the CATS and open dump - no difference (GESI cats are king). The cams run out up top as you would expect for a truck cam - but this is the house support vehicle and tow vehicle for me.

    93 octane log: 10 PSI



    E85 log: 18.5 PSI



    Dyno Sheet:

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Eric,
    Can we assume this will be in the parking lot at LCS?

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    yes - I plan on pulling the Daytona with it - also plan on Texas this year as well if all goes well..... starting another build soon.
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Well we continue to hit milestones - part of my build plan was that I am replacing my home support vehicle with the XTF.... part of that is that having a lockable bed. The XTF bed is basically the same dimensions as the stock truck... the main difference is that the bed side are flat in the XTF so there is no place to use the clamping feature of your typical cover. So I looked at it for a couple days, decided to toss the OEM attachment hardware.

    I attached some 4 foot sections of aluminum 90* along the bed top rails. I then noticed in order to get the locking mechanism to work the width of the cover need to be adjusted.... wasn't sure it could be done... but I figured somebody made it... so I should be able to take it apart, worst case I destroyed it.... Turns out these things are sheet metal panels with a Styrofoam with aluminum rails down the side to complete the panel. Once I figured that all out - It was just a matter of measuring it out....

    Took the cover down to its components and took .035 off each side and put it all back together....I still have one more bracket set to make for the first panel that attaches to the tailgate. I wouldn't call it a tight water proof install - but I think it will get the job done.

    no turning back now:



    After I cut everything down it went together like a typical cover.



    Now I just need to touchup the black paint.

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Nice flush fit. I like it. I need to do something like that on my truck.
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    That is one hell of a street truck. I am really impressed how stock the truck looks to those that don't know what a Factory Five is. Great job and looks like another happy Hellion customer.
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    I think I am building another 65 coupe while I decide.....
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    This should close out this thread - thanks for all the interest - finished 2023 pretty strong - will start another thread once we get towing!

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Well I have a question and this seems like the most appropriate thread so...

    Do you happen to have any links to articles or videos from SEMA 2023 where the FFR Truck is featured...or even mentioned?

    I have been looking at a bunch of SEMA 2023 videos and have not seen anything about the FFR truck? Seems odd to me. You know like "Best Accessory Kit" videos and it is about some hood scoops/vents, or a "ground effects" kit? Seems like the FFR kit is far and above any of this kind of stuff and should have stolen the show as far as "upgrade" items are concerned. I know, I know to get many of those awards and accolades it takes the mordida, but I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't even be a mention?

    Show us where you (anyone) have seen the FFR XTF in videos or pictures at SEMA 2023.
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    Yeah not sure - we did a bunch of interviews - not sure what's up with the coverage honestly - I did about 30 minutes with Cars.tv and haven't seen that yet - they said some time in Jan.... not sure.
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Got some Towing/Trailer testing done - long video - but show the overall impression first hand and the setup from going from a street rocket to a tow vehicle in about 30 minutes

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Another milestone... you can actually tow a Factory Five WITH a Factory Five.. even got caught in the rain.... still a few adjustments to be done but happy with the performance overall...

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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