FormaCars

Visit our community sponsor

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  10
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Recommendation for Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio guages?

  1. #1
    Ted G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    El Dorado Hills, CA
    Posts
    763
    Post Thanks / Like

    Recommendation for Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio guages?

    Thinking about using an Air/Fuel ratio gauge and set up to help me fine tune my carburetor. Yes, I know all you EFI guys will chime in, but I love my carb. Looking for either a remote gauge I can keep in my glove box, or a mounted gauge (under the dash).

    My questions are:

    1) Do I need sensors on both sides of the motor?
    2) Do these typically need to be calibrated or are they just plug and play?
    3) I see some in the $100-$150 range and others as much as $600. What would be the difference?

    Just for reference, I have a 427 stroker with mild cam and a 750 Holley carb with vacuum secondaries. I also have GasN headers and side pipes. So I can put the sensors on either side.

    Thank in advance.
    #10333 Complete Kit, Carbed 427w, TKX, IRS and many other upgrades

    • Order Date: September 11, 2021 - 20th Anniversary of 9/11
    • Delivery Day: April 1, 2022 - April Fool's Day
    • First Start and Go-Kart: January 20th, 2023
    • Graduation Date: July 4th, 2023 - Independence Day!!
    • Legal Registration Date: October 4, 2023 - My Birthday!!


    Visit my MKIV Build Thread (#10333)

  2. #2
    Senior Member skidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    SA-TX
    Posts
    621
    Post Thanks / Like
    AEM all in one gauge controller sensor. I have one and it works well, and is a nice clean install. I think I paid about $150

    1: you can install in just one side , I'll be just fine.
    2: some do. The innovate LC1 does. The above AEM does not.ug and go.
    3: features and interface options you don't need.

  3. Likes Ted G liked this post
  4. #3
    Senior Member skidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    SA-TX
    Posts
    621
    Post Thanks / Like
    Found it.
    This is the one I have.
    I liked that I could swap the faceplate.
    Better matches my dash.

    AEM (30-4110) UEGO Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge https://a.co/d/9lJuvu0

  5. Likes Ted G liked this post
  6. #4
    Senior Member MB750's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2022
    Location
    Tampa, FL
    Posts
    792
    Post Thanks / Like
    3rd for AEM. Good quality, relatively inexpensive if you just get the gauge. I don't need datalogging.
    Matt
    My build thread here

  7. Likes Ted G liked this post
  8. #5
    Senior Member Mike.Bray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2021
    Location
    Flower Mound TX
    Posts
    844
    Post Thanks / Like
    Carburetor? Damn, I had no idea they still made those. LOL
    My build thread https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...Roadster-Build

    Thread on Stainless Steel AN brake lines.

    Thread on fasteners and torque wrenches.

  9. Likes Ted G liked this post
  10. #6
    Ted G's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    El Dorado Hills, CA
    Posts
    763
    Post Thanks / Like
    Thanks guys, I purchased this AEM X-series which comes with the Bosch sensor based on some research and your recommendations. Now, where do I put it? I'm probably going to do an underdash mount as I don't want to ruin my well-thought-out dash layout... maybe not so well thought out!!

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FEH2GNW...roduct_details

    Dash10.jpg
    Last edited by Ted G; 08-14-2023 at 08:47 PM.
    #10333 Complete Kit, Carbed 427w, TKX, IRS and many other upgrades

    • Order Date: September 11, 2021 - 20th Anniversary of 9/11
    • Delivery Day: April 1, 2022 - April Fool's Day
    • First Start and Go-Kart: January 20th, 2023
    • Graduation Date: July 4th, 2023 - Independence Day!!
    • Legal Registration Date: October 4, 2023 - My Birthday!!


    Visit my MKIV Build Thread (#10333)

  11. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Grand Rapids, MI
    Posts
    944
    Post Thanks / Like
    I had the F.A.S.T. dual channel years ago. Seemed to work well but... I spent enough time looking at it change it's readings that I wasn't spending my time driving. I pulled it out and gave it to my friend with a dyno. Found it better to dyno tune the carb and then leave it alone.
    Jim
    2016 Mk4 Challenge Car, IRS, 3.31 Torsen, RDI Aluminum 427w, AFR 225s, Vic Jr. ProSystems 780 HP, TKO-600 w/Liberty mods. Forward cage. Levy 6/4 piston Wilwoods. Not completed yet, will be a streetable track car.
    2004 Superformance MkIII #1855, 2007 Superformance MkIII #2584 purchased in 2012 both sold.

  12. Likes Ted G liked this post
  13. #8
    Senior Member F500guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2022
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Posts
    365
    Post Thanks / Like
    I suspect after tune, you will have little use to monitor it regularly, so maybe a temporary set up would be better.
    MK IV Delivered June 27, 2023 Build Thread-https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showthread.php?46069-Lance-s-Roadster-Build-Thread-Starting-the-Al-panel-slog

    "Build a Car" They Said "It Will Be Fun "

  14. Likes Ted G liked this post
  15. #9
    Senior Member MB750's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2022
    Location
    Tampa, FL
    Posts
    792
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by F500guy View Post
    I suspect after tune, you will have little use to monitor it regularly, so maybe a temporary set up would be better.
    That's exactly how I use mine. Tune it, then remove it. It's not like the tune is gonna change drastically anyway.
    Matt
    My build thread here

  16. Likes Ted G liked this post
  17. #10
    Senior Member BRRT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Posts
    264
    Post Thanks / Like
    Speedhut offers an AFR gauge that would match the rest of your gauges.
    ----------------------------------------------

    Jeff
    Roadster delivered 8/27/23
    Chevrolet Performance LS3
    Build Thread

  18. Likes Ted G liked this post
  19. #11
    Senior Member Its Bruce's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Houston TX
    Posts
    166
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by BRRT View Post
    Speedhut offers an AFR gauge that would match the rest of your gauges.
    I'll note that I went this route with a permanent WB gauge, and the analog output works perfectly with my tuning software. I suspect this would also work with your dyno provider's software. I've also tied in the throttle position signal to constrain the warning light. 'Appreciate this probably wouldn't be applicable in your carb scenario.
    MK4, 427LS3, IRS, T56 Magnum, Wilwoods

  20. Likes Ted G liked this post
  21. #12
    Senior Member skidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    SA-TX
    Posts
    621
    Post Thanks / Like
    My only issue with the speedhut gauge was the lack of a digital readout. I have speedhut gauges for all my others. And quite like them myself, over the years, I've grown accustomed to reading AFR in digital. I find that I like to watch for changes as small as 0.1 . Just to gauge how the car is running today. I can't easily see that with an analog gauge.

    Which is another point to the OP. Permanent or Temporary install. I'm also carbd. I'll never NOT have an AFR gauge. I always like to watch the state of my cars tune. The AFR changing can be an early warning for you, that something else is going on. My 02c.

  22. Likes Ted G liked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Stewart Transport

Visit our community sponsor