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    Donor prices paid

    To help budget and know what a reasonable price is I started to make a table showing what I have found on the forum.

    If you do not wish to be named please PM me and I will add data w/ no name.... and updtate table

    If other data is needed please advise.

    John

    To see pictures of vehicles described below please go to this thread:
    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...r-donor-thread
    or http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...y-got-my-donor
    For Copart info please go to this thread:
    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...t-CoPart-com"]


    Year WRX? Miles (k) Price Transaction cost Shipping Shipping Distance Total price incl. shipping Purch. From Other Owner
    05 Y 70 MI to ME $3,500 Copart RM1SepEx
    06 Y 140 $3,750 Copart Zodiac
    02 Y 84 $2,450 Kalstar
    02 Y 136 $3,000 Michael everson
    03 Y 145 $2,550 Copart Bkafe
    06 Y 18 $6,000 Stickshift84
    06 Y 70 $4,095 $ 0 None – Indianapolis, IN $4,095 IBB Mechie3
    02 Y 276 $2,800 None – FL BHPH - Fl. wallace18
    05 Aero 48 $3,950 $454 IAAI rori
    05 N 78 $1,300 $305 Copart rori
    Y 120 $7,500 DD (cobb Stage 2) GUNS
    06 Y 64 $16,650 $ 0 UCD DD 07FIREBLADE
    02 Y $2,000 None Local Less Engine metalmaker12
    07 N 116 $3,995 None – Columbus, Ohio $3,995 UCD Drivable Bob_n_Cincy
    02 Y $3,300 $3,300 Erik W. Treves
    4.2 87% WRX 105 $3,195 $410 Average Donor*
    Other Data
    Type '06 - 07 Y <$4,000 Copart Zodiac
    $470 $800 Copart ~1 wk Delivery Bkafe
    Notes:
    BHPH = Buy here pay here lot
    IBB = Insurance buy back
    UCD = Used Car Dealer
    DD = Daily Driver
    *Average Donor cost excludes DD’s & Drivable
    *Average Transaction costs excludes $0 transactions


    Revision #5: 12/05/2012
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    Last edited by jlahl3160; 12-05-2012 at 10:18 AM. Reason: Revised chart - Rev 5 12/05/12
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    Thanks for the link ! ... I will add prices the table for easy reference.

    I will also subscribe to this thread to chatch new posts.... see revised chart (rev 1) includes what I just found.

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    Great Idea.

    I would suggest adding:

    *Engine Start
    *Include the State of the Insurance Auction facility
    *Primary area/type of damage (if it’s an auction buy)
    *If not an Insurance Auction sale then "personal or dealership buy"
    *Actual Auction ending price.
    *Title Type.

    The addition of the above data should give anyone searching a solid reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VD2021 View Post
    Great Idea.

    I would suggest adding:

    *Engine Start
    *Include the State of the Insurance Auction facility
    *Primary area/type of damage (if it’s an auction buy)
    *If not an Insurance Auction sale then "personal or dealership buy"
    *Actual Auction ending price.
    *Title Type.

    The addition of the above data should give anyone searching a solid reference.
    I will add if I get more than one or two who include above information in their post / PM..
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    photos? several of my 05 roll over have been posted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RM1SepEx View Post
    photos? several of my 05 roll over have been posted...
    I may be wrong, but I included the owner's name as it shows in the posts I pulled the data from.. someone looking for photos could search on the name(s). I will try that and if it works, I will add it to the post the next time I go in to edit the chart.

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    Here's the rest of the info on the one you already have started for me:

    Year: 05
    WRX?: Y (actually an Aero... same difference)
    Transaction Cost: $454
    Purchase from: IAAI

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    The cheapest car I've bought:

    Year: 05
    WRX?: N
    Miles: 78k
    Price: $1300
    Transaction Cost: $305
    Purchase From: Copart

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    I looked up the real numbers for mine.

    Paid $4095
    Miles: 70k
    WRX: yes, 06
    Transaction cost: $0
    Purchased from: My own car, totaled, insurance buy back
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    Lol this is gonna hurt when it comes time to build my 818...

    Paid $16650
    Miles: $64k
    WRX: Yes, 06
    Transaction Cost: $0
    Purchased from: Used car dealer because I needed a new DD, and I was going to kill two birds with one stone. Also waiting on the coupe to come out and for me to finish college. So I have plenty of time to troll and plan my build accordingly. Also this is my fist Subaru so I wanted to learn about the car before I rip it apart. I might just buy a wrecked one if I cant bare to rip this one apart.

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    format question

    shouldn't the column that is filled/final for all cars be the cost inc. shipping if any... they all have a "total" cost... mine just happened to have 1/2 of the cost be in transaction and shipping fees.

    It gets really complicated when you add what "needs" to be done to have all the parts for your 818... :-) my donor had to have replaced: the driver's LCA, the steering rack, two lower rear lateral links, and mirrors to be a "complete" donor kit. Since I had a 70k donor I could have installed the parts "as is" but chose not to, to upgrade and refresh... I've still recovered almost $1000 from my donor and can forsee at least $600 more from unwanted parts. I'm adding over $2500 in refreshed parts & upgraded parts that did not need to be done inc. the LSD... only remaining donor expenses are a nice steering wheel and the LSD install.

    Makes it hard to really compare donors. Looks like rori got a pretty nice deal on an NA donor as long as the damage doesn't include parts we need.

    I think that many will prove that 5K donor and 10K kit could indeed be accomplished tho most of us will do more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07FIREBLADE View Post
    Lol this is gonna hurt when it comes time to build my 818...

    Paid $16650
    Miles: $64k
    You will be much better off financially to buy a true donor. The other option is to get lucky like me, have a lady total your car while unaffecting most of the parts you still need and buy it back from insurance.

    Donor parts ruined: Radiator, timing belt cover, front seat belts (1 time use only in an accident).
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    I know that financially speaking buying a true donor will be best but it came time to get a new car and what better could i do then get a future car that I could re-purpose later on when needed. I am also not looking to buy a kit until the coupe comes out or a few years after college so that would give me time to get another DD while this one goes the way of the dodo bird. Also who said that the car my not get in an accident later on down the road..... :P

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    the 818 donor list is for the rear seat belts, not the fronts! lucky you.

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    It used to say rear, now it says front. I plan on 5 pt harnesses anyways. My guess is they realized the rear seats have to mount the spool at shoulder height where the front can hide the spool down low.
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    my bad, just noticed that too... I'm with you re harnesses... I have a damaged drivers belt too, it was cut by emergency services after the roll over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RM1SepEx View Post
    shouldn't the column that is filled/final for all cars be the cost inc. shipping if any... they all have a "total" cost... mine just happened to have 1/2 of the cost be in transaction and shipping fees.
    I was hoping people would offer cost of donor, transaction cost, and cost of transportation,.. and delivery time once they saw the chart... most post did not contain that information and I did not want to PM all with reques for more data... So I filled in what I could.

    It gets really complicated when you add what "needs" to be done to have all the parts for your 818... :-)
    As you say, it really gets complicated. My goal was to be helpful.. not to find a new job ...:-) .. When you see what is offered on Copart and the variation in damage, I see no opportunity to keep it spimple.

    my donor had to have replaced: the driver's LCA, the steering rack, two lower rear lateral links, and mirrors to be a "complete" donor kit. Since I had a 70k donor I could have installed the parts "as is" but chose not to, to upgrade and refresh... I've still recovered almost $1000 from my donor and can forsee at least $600 more from unwanted parts. I'm adding over $2500 in refreshed parts & upgraded parts that did not need to be done inc. the LSD... only remaining donor expenses are a nice steering wheel and the LSD install.
    If you wish to add N # of columns, PM your e-mail & could e-mail you the file.

    Makes it hard to really compare donors.
    Agreed.

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    I think what matters is overall delivered cost and what else you may need due to damage with the other end of that is what you can salvage/sell off.
    It realistically looks like if I took that approach my replacement parts cost me about $300 beyond the $3500 for the donor add the replacement wheel and tire for $250 more to use the existing Dunlops. Then with the $1500-1600 I'll end up getting out of my salvage parts I "could" have done the donor piece for $4050-$1500 or around $3500 for $70k WRX parts. I think that is really amazing!!!! Wow to Factory 5

    Now I chose to upgrade brakes disks and hawk hps pads, clutch, header, timing belt, oil and water pumps, powder coating parts, PS and AC delete and LSD. Those choices look to cost me about $3000 additional...

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    Edit to first post in thread... Added links and revised table.. hope it is easier to read

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    suggest add location, State, Country (World Car). Prices and availability seem to differ a lot depending on what State you are in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    suggest add location, State, Country (World Car). Prices and availability seem to differ a lot depending on what State you are in.
    I can add if owners would provide the data. PM or post either way....

    BTW.. Anyone that has donor data I will be happy to add ... more data is better.

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    I'm in Maine, car came from Michigan

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    Quote Originally Posted by RM1SepEx View Post
    I'm in Maine, car came from Michigan
    02 wrx $2000 local no engine, got a Jdm ej207 for engine etc

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    doner side.jpg Got my Doner
    2007 Impreza wagon
    2.5L NA (no turbo) 5 speed
    116K
    $3995 UCD Columbus OH
    One Owner
    Stock except HID projector headlight.
    Damaged fender. Tires fair to poor.
    Interior very good. Everything works except the horn.
    Runs great and is fun to drive.
    When it comes time, I may have a hard time taking apart a perfectly good car.
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    Congratulations! I can see why it will be hard to take apart. Happy miles until that time.

    Looks like it is time to make an up date to the chart..... I'll do that in the next day or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    doner side.jpg Got my Doner
    2007 Impreza wagon
    2.5L NA (no turbo) 5 speed
    116K
    $3995 UCD Colunbus OH
    One Owner
    Stock except HID projector headlight.
    Damaged fender. Tires fair to poor.
    Interior very good. Everything works except the horn.
    Runs great and is fun to drive.
    When it comes time I may have a hard time taking apart a perfectly good car.
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    Chart updated - Rev 4 Dated 11/26/12

    See beginning of thread.

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    Suggest add averages to bottom of chart. Getting an average cost of donor, and average age of donor, would really help validate FFR assertion of $15K completed cost. Would probably need to throw out high and low outliers to make it fair. But it looks like the FFR $5K donor cost estimate might just be on the money (once you factor in cost for parts wrecked on donor, etc).

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    the 15k would be easy if you use stock components... after selling off parts from my roll over I'm at a net cost of $5608 for my WRX donor and I went with a lightened flywheel, new clutch, brake rotors, stainless brake and clutch lines, timing belt kit, oil and water pumps, ceramic header and catless up pipe, sti front LCAs, Quaife LSD, and adjustable rear arms. And I'm still selling stuff to get the net cost down.

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    I'll add the average at the end of the chart at the next update... I will make note of those excluded from the average (i.e. $16K DD)... I do not believe that is what was originally invisioned as a donor. Note also most all listed are WRX.. even with a WRX it looks like keeping it to $15k it is easily possible... depending on individual choices as RM1SepEX noted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    Suggest add averages to bottom of chart. Getting an average cost of donor, and average age of donor, would really help validate FFR assertion of $15K completed cost. Would probably need to throw out high and low outliers to make it fair. But it looks like the FFR $5K donor cost estimate might just be on the money (once you factor in cost for parts wrecked on donor, etc).
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    Dave's $5k donor and the kit is easy to do... even with a WRX.

    I had good functional stock components that could have kept my WRX donor cost down to $3104 right now and I'm still selling stuff from my donor and it was really toast, the only undamaged body panel was the left rear door! I just shipped out the up pipe and cat, one cast exhaust manifold and the exhaust manifold shields... $ back into my project.

    I kept EVERY nut bolt bracket etc... so I should be all set with my donor parts and a kit. I may introduce more project creep tho... stock wheels and existing Direzzas in 16 inch or bigger wheels and tires and sell off the stock ones... Each wheel is worth more than $100 on Ebay as an example...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppenheimer View Post
    Suggest add averages to bottom of chart. Getting an average cost of donor, and average age of donor, would really help validate FFR assertion of $15K completed cost. Would probably need to throw out high and low outliers to make it fair. But it looks like the FFR $5K donor cost estimate might just be on the money (once you factor in cost for parts wrecked on donor, etc).
    Just a quick note: The average price paid for donors has no bearing on the feasibility of the $15K build. What we (as a collective group) choose to spend (RM1SepEX is a good example) is only reflective of people's choices. It's not reflective of whether or not a $15K build is possible. I'm guessing most people will choose to spend more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xusia View Post
    Just a quick note: The average price paid for donors has no bearing on the feasibility of the $15K build. What we (as a collective group) choose to spend (RM1SepEX is a good example) is only reflective of people's choices. It's not reflective of whether or not a $15K build is possible. I'm guessing most people will choose to spend more.
    I think that is exactly right. My NA w/ mods build will miss the mark by about $3K -- but that is because I chose to let someone else (AJW Performance) deal with the donor for me. I won't need to disassemble a donor, and won't have to dispose of the remains -- and that is worth the extra money to me. But the $15K build is absolutely doable.

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    It's certainly possible. I've posted elsewhere my cost and recoup'd costs. Think my donor cost is around $2k now, though I need to buy a few items.
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    Another to add to the list....

    02 WRX 63,237 miles. Runs/drives. Light hit front and back $2700.00 copart ($3312 with fees).

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    What happened to this thread? Since Copart doesn't publish what the cars sold for, I think it would be helpful to get an idea what winning bids are so the rest of us can go in to the bidding process with some sense of how much these cars are going for and what would be a reasonable bid.

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    I don't think you can go into bidding a car with a price in mine based on what somebody else might have paid for there's. the prices are definitely higher now then a year ago. Different areas may have a subaru specific dismantler who is gonna drive the price up based on they want the cars. Like I do. Best advise i can give (I've boughten 5 donors) is set a personal limit and hope nobody else happened to bid against you.

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    Copart does publish winning bids, but the information is only available for a short time after the auction is over.

    I think setting a personal limit is wise. And I think knowing what others have paid - that is, what donors can be had for - can help you set a realistic limit.

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    I was able to buy mine thru IAAI (via a Broker). I bought a 2004 Forester XT which was hit in the rear -- no front end damage at all and nothing to cause a problem with any parts needed for the 818 (I know, this was a bit of a lucky find).

    This model came with a 2.5L Turbo (using a TD04, not like STi VF39) and with the appropriate 5-speed tranny. Thus essentially most of the good stuff needed for an 818 build. I have since had it checked out by a local Subaru specialist and got the green light on all the mechanicals (although one cyl had a little leak down, but nothing major).
    Costs:
    Auction winning bid: $2600
    Fees (broker & IAAI): ~800
    Shipping: $600
    Total investment: ~$4000
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