Wallace18"s 818 Build

[jayguy]

Nice life, but I think you have it backwards. Keep the 33 on the ground so you can drive it a lot, and put some boards across the lift to use as a storage shelf for the parts.

Your 33 is so gorgeous, can't wait to see the 818 finished.

[RM1SepEx]

My body parts are on the lift with some boards and plywood to leave room under the lift for any one of my 11 cars... Now of course I need to do an oil change and I could really use the lift!

[metalmaker12]

Yea date is off for sure. It is a cheapo camera and I have to change the batteries often. I forget to change the date. I am debating using the stock harness or getting an ECU from Wayne. I'll make a decision soon enough.

It looks like I may be the first costumer to actually install the factory harness, this weekend is d day.

[longislandwrx]

Good luck, i'll be there soon. looking forward to hearing how it goes

[metalmaker12]

I will be starting on it sat or Sunday morning. It is going to be a slow go since I am going to try to really make sure I can figure it all out correctly. Stay tuned!!!

[longislandwrx]

where do you plan on mounting the ecu/fuse block/engine fuses? or do you need to layout the harness first

[wallace18]

where do you plan on mounting the ecu/fuse block/engine fuses? or do you need to layout the harness first

I will layout the harness and let that dictate locations.

[Samiam1017]

Does the build manual have recommendations on fuse box and harrness layout?

[RM1SepEx]

the manual has it attached to the frame above the fuel tank behind the seats... Pages 230 - 235

[wallace18]

I have coated my front alum. with Lizard skin sound deadner and ceramic heat shield. I'll be using that on most panels as well. I attached some of the panels with S/S 10-32 button head screws. Some with rivets. I painted all the bare metal with Eastwood Rust Encapsulater then Extreme chassis gloss black. I got as far as the lower and upper control arms. Only slight mods needed to fit. I ended up ordering the ECU and harness from verycoolparts. Wayne makes a good product, plus he is a great guy to talk to. Here is my reason for going this way. I can easly mod my program, easier plug and play, less wires to deal with, cleaner install and I don't need to hire a tuner for the reflash. In the long run well worth the price IMO. I hope to get more done this week. So far this is easier than the 33 kit IMO. But is just as much fun!
Check out my engine turned trans cover.

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[Frank818]

So you sprayed both coatings?
With a gun or in spray cans? If it comes in spray cans too...

They claim heat reduction by 30F+ and noise by 12dB+.

Now I wonder if the fatmat is better. Of course, they say 3x better than any leader. But no numbers. Maybe using both is also an option.

[blueoval_bowtie_guy]

I used fatmat on my Cobra. It is under all the carpet. Not sure how well it holds the heat out - foot boxes in Cobras get wicked hot even with Cobra Earl's powered vents. The first summer mine was on the road my wife and I had to wear ear plugs (no carpet and no fatmat). After the fatmat and carpet were installed, we've never worn ear plugs again.

[wallace18]

So you sprayed both coatings?
With a gun or in spray cans? If it comes in spray cans too...

They claim heat reduction by 30F+ and noise by 12dB+.

Now I wonder if the fatmat is better. Of course, they say 3x better than any leader. But no numbers. Maybe using both is also an option.

I use a paint roller. First the sound proofing then the heat barrier. I bought the 2 gal. cans. I will be able to do 3 cars with that much. I also use Eastwood Thermo- Coustic sound deadner sheets on the inside and inside floor. I did this on a Vette and my 33 and had great results. It adds about 100lbs when you add every thing up . Very worthwhile IMO.

[riptide motorsport]

Cool beans.......let the games begin!!!!!!!

[wallace18]

I am having issues with the front sway bar. The mount holes do not line up and the link rods are way too long. Maybe the FFR update I will get today will explain.

My 33 is in the voting for POM (picture of the month) please vote for me if you are so inclined. Thanks. T.W.

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[Racebrewer]

Don't know about the mount holes, but the link rods may need to be shortened. Apparently there are slightly different sway bars out there.

[wallace18]

After getting my front wheel deal fixed I was able to jump around and get some other stuff done. Mounted the rad. and some rear suspension. I changed out my rear arm bushings for energy suspension units like my front LCA's. I sure hope some B/O stuff starts coming in. At least I have a car show Saturday with my 33 to keep me out of trouble. LOL.

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[Frank818]

You got the same garage tiles I do. Except that I got more colors, but I got the gloss black and gloss pale grey, + gloss blue and gloss yellow.

RaceDeck, right?

[Mechie3]

Did you mount your radiator the same way everyone else did with the OEM rubber bads then the shifter bushings on top of those?

[RM1SepEx]

Craig, I ended up using bigger dia. rubber bushings, didn't like the look of the tiny shifter bushings... Got them at ACE, 3/8 thick about 1.5 OD. I'm using tubular spacers under longer bolts at the top, they are getting powder coated

[wallace18]

You got the same garage tiles I do. Except that I got more colors, but I got the gloss black and gloss pale grey, + gloss blue and gloss yellow.

RaceDeck, right?

Yes Racedeck. I got it on sale 1/2 price with free shipping. I could not turn that diown.

[wallace18]

Did you mount your radiator the same way everyone else did with the OEM rubber bads then the shifter bushings on top of those?

Yes I did and I used the same bushing up top where my mounts bolted to the frame. The rad. is in good and tight and has plenty of clearance now.

[Frank818]

Yes Racedeck. I got it on sale 1/2 price with free shipping. I could not turn that diown.

Definitely not!!! You da man, Wallace.

[wallace18]

Jumping around I mounted my tank and modified the lower firewall. This added a lot of legroom for me. I mounted my kirkey seats temporarly and I needed that extra room IMO. I have to bend the upper firewall more to match the bottom now. I am adding Eastwood thermocousit to the floors and on the backside of the firewalls. I will also make a alum. firewall in the engine side as some others are doing. I am mounting them with 10-32 buttonhead screws and 1/4-20 buttonhead screws and nuts.

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[RM1SepEx]

looks very nice, how much extra room do you get, 3 inches?

[wallace18]

looks very nice, how much extra room do you get, 3 inches?

Yes almost exactly 3". It sure was a help for me. I'm 6'3". My wife is 5'8" and she can still reach the pedals with the seat slid forward to the bar. I will use sliders on the drivers seat only.

[AZPete]

I also need 3" more room so I'm thinking of getting the Boyd tank. Can you use the donor fuel pump? Use the FFR filler pipe and cap? And, how are the 2 aluminum panels covering the tank modified? Thanks.
Pete

[RM1SepEx]

My wife is 5'1" I looked at sliders but my seat takes up all the space between the tank and the diagonal bar!

[07FIREBLADE]

Is the first photo where you modified the lower firewall? And are you using the stock tanl from ffr or the boyd one?

[wallace18]

I also need 3" more room so I'm thinking of getting the Boyd tank. Can you use the donor fuel pump? Use the FFR filler pipe and cap? And, how are the 2 aluminum panels covering the tank modified? Thanks.
Pete

It comes with its own pump,sender. You have the straighten the firewall top and bottom.

[wallace18]

Is the first photo where you modified the lower firewall? And are you using the stock tanl from ffr or the boyd one?

It's a boyd unit. Much better than the stock unit IMO.

[RM1SepEx]

does it use a different fuel level sender? It looks to me like the F5 one only reads the level of the lower portion of the tank!

[wallace18]

does it use a different fuel level sender? It looks to me like the F5 one only reads the level of the lower portion of the tank!

Yes it is different. Everything is on top, easy to get to and no leaks.

[wallace18]

Here's some pictures of the firewall all mocked up after mods for the Boyd tank. I will most likely have to mod the hole for cables and wires. I have a photo that shows the room gain in inches. Always use a drill stop when working around a tank. I am using a combonation of 10-32 S/S screws and button head bolts.

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[wallace18]

I have Kirkey seats. I decieded to insulate the seat area and cover it with a 14ga. steel plate. They are held in place with 24 3/16" large flange S/S rivets. I painted it with eastwood wrinkle paint. I used the eastwood thermocoustic and 3/4" silver backed foam insulation. I can then mount my seats and drivers side slider easier IMO.

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[Racebrewer]

Nice seats. Which Kirkey's did you get and how well does the tilt of the seat back match the tilt of the firewall?

I need to get as much legroom as possible. Not quite Wookie, but close enough......

Thanks,
John

[wallace18]

Having to jump around again. I hope the B/O stuff comes soon. I drilled and cut out tail lights and areas for the mesh in my rear bumper. I am going to mount my plate down low like the SEMA car. Still have not decided on the exhaust exit yet.

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[Frank818]

Is it my eyes or the round cuts for the rear brake lights are not cut perfectly round?

[RM1SepEx]

clearance holes, lights mount from outside, doesn't matter

[wallace18]

clearance holes, lights mount from outside, doesn't matter

What he said! LOL. It does'nt have to be perfect if it gets covered up. LOL.