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Our aluminum Replacement tank is live on our website. This tank holds approx 10 gallons and gives you 3" of extra leg room.
http://www.fueltankparts.com/factory...-340-pump.html
how large is the standard tank in an 818?
Yes how many gallons again it holds?
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
I'm pretty sure the 818 tank is 13 gallons.
FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
Delivered 4/23/06. "Finished" 4/2012 (still not done!)
I think you're right, using the search function I found this:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...t=tank+gallons** a note about weight in the article as this had everyone here concerned and we had weighed the car almost 100 lbs lighter. The magazine FILLED the large capacity fuel tank to the top as is standard for all their curb weight tests (ugh! that's 13 more gallons and +91 lbs more than you'd routinely drive or autocross with). Further the 818R cage (+22 lbs), fuel cell mounting hardware/brackets (+6 lbs), paint (+26 lbs), wheels (+16 lbs), and heavy battery (+20lbs) account for another +181 lbs, add in the street seat, carpets, and windshield and we figure the street car should be right in the mid-to-low 1800 lbs range. We will have the street car in the showroom ON SCALES for the Open House!
Dave Smith
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
It says the full tank is "13 more gallons more than you'd routinely drive or autocross with". So it is whatever Dave would put in for routine driving or autocrossing PLUS 13 gallons, so it might be 20+.
Edit: The Road and Track specs page (link) lists the tank as 18.0 gallons for the 818R. Do the S and R get the same tank?
Last edited by Evan78; 08-15-2013 at 04:37 PM.
The 818R tested had a special tank mounted in the passenger compartment.
FFR says on it's site that the '33 hotrod fuel capacity is 15 gallons; the 818 and hotrod share the same tank.
FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
Delivered 4/23/06. "Finished" 4/2012 (still not done!)
Yes, from what I have seen, the 818 and Hotrod are sharing the same gas tank. Mine holds 15 gallons.
Doug
What's the weight of the stock tank. Ad the Boyd tank? Empty of course
Boyd tank is listed at 24 lbs...
I am getting my Boyd 818 tank, rollover valve and sender today. They are 35 minutes away from me. I bought the boyd 33 tank for my 33 kit. It is so much better IMO. Worth the extra cost to me.
Can we get a credit from FFR for the tank if we plan on buying the boyd tank? I dont really need 2 tanks
FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
Delivered 4/23/06. "Finished" 4/2012 (still not done!)
They have no obligation, but they certainly have the option to sell the car with any options they choose. There's no reason they have to make less money by not including the tank. They could simply offer a credit for less than it costs them to build the tank. That would mean more profit for them and less cost for the buyer. Win-win.
FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
Delivered 4/23/06. "Finished" 4/2012 (still not done!)
Here are some pictures of my Boyd tank #3 I got today. I remember someone posting on the 33 forum if you delete the FFR tank they do not send some fuel fittings you may need. I do not delete the tank with my order. I just find another use for it or sell it. JMO. There are 2 main reasons I went with the Boyd tank. 1st he is a FFR vendor and I liked how my 33 tank from him was built. 2nd the filler, sender and pump are all at the top. This IMO leads to far less chance of fuel leaks down the road. I am not knocking FFR's tank. It is JMO that the boyd tank is a better fit for my build and peace of mind. TEHO.
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I did not mean for them to make less money. It costs them money to make the tank, correct? Just credit the production cost, and thier profit per kit remains the same. Same thing if you wanted different head lights, just deduct thier cost. It just does not make since to purchase a ship an item that you dont plan on using.
Any plans to offer a version of this tank with a bladder and foam inside?
How about a version that does not have the additional 3" legroom, in exchange for additional capacity? 10 Gallons is not enough for some people.
I think some people would like to send the tank in to Fuel Safe/ or ATL for a proper safety foam/bladder (The motor IS right behind the fuel cell). I know both Fuel Safe/ATL will make them custom.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
Does FFR not supply a tank with the kit? We could just send that one in.
Any updates on this?
Thanks!
All I can say is Dave never came up for a look. I could not wait on him. My tank is installed and covered up with my second firewall. An opportunity missed for sure. IMO. I had only a slight prolem with the sender installed backwards in mine. It was a simple fix. I love how it gave me 3" more legroom. I heard FFR is working on a similar tank for more legroom. Not sure of its availability though.
Has anybody painted the Boyd tank? Is it recommended or just leave it as is? I think the stock tank comes black, so was just wondering if anybody has opinions on painting the custom tank?
The Boyd tank looks so good in Aluminum... why paint it? No need IMHO.
Can some one show me photos or explain how this tank allows for more leg room?
Check my thread , btw the Boyd tank is what the kit should come with, it is built with quality in mind, while looking nice the way it comes.
tank stock.jpgtank boyd.jpg
The stock tank is thicker than the Boyd tank.
You can move your firewall and seat back further with the Boyd tank.
Bob
Yup, and to move the firewall back you need to bend the upper firewall another 15-20deg; Since it's a big piece of 1/8" Al plate, a press brake is needed to do it right. I bent mine 16deg with moves it back 2.5" and allows a bit of clearance between the firewall and the tank.
Hi Guys, I am dropping my donor tank. What parts do I need to salvage from the donor to fit the Boyds Tank?
I see it comes with a pump. So Does it come with everything? Sender and pump and internal filter?
Will I need a high pressure filter on the outside of the tank before the fuel Rails?
Thanks Don
You won't need any donor parts from the Subbie tank, just the external filter if you choose to use it.
The sender is optional on the Boyd tank, $32 extra. I got my Boyd tank with it installed, as well as the roll-over valve. Like this, the tank is pretty much 'plug and play'.
Yes, the 818 assembly manual shows to use the Subie filter (p176), however I plan to use something smaller and nicer looking.
What size fittings do I need for the fuel and return line? Where did you order them from? Thanks
I've installed my Boyd tank, but haven't hooked up the lines yet; the Boyd website says:
QUICK OVERVIEW
Product Number: 14030
Tank Dimensions: 46.5 x 6.5 x 10
Tank Thickness: 1/8"
Material Grade: 5052 Aluminum
Approx Weight: 24 LBS
Tank Baffles: 2
Fill: 2" OD Ribbed For Hose
Vent: 1/2" NPT ( Rollover Valve Optional)
Draw: 3/8 NPT
Return: 3/8 NPT
Drain: N/A
Sending Unit Flange: Yes (0-90 Ohm Sending Unit Optional)
Mounting Tabs: (4) 2 x 2 x 2" Long
Thanks. Looks like we need two 3/8NPT with 5/16" hose barb
Last edited by rori; 02-25-2014 at 03:54 PM.