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Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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fasterer and furiouser
It's cool that you requested the crossbar to be added back. I'm not there yet and still need instructors. Although, it will be an easy addition down the road. Had I been smart, I would have sent FFR the disconnect couplers and just paid the labor to have them weld before it was sent to powder coating.
Looking forward to another nice R build, seems like we have a lot of the same ideas.
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Glad to see another r car. I have a donor car but it seems like I'm using less and less from it. I am a ways from my kit. my date is 9/14 so I have a long time to learn from everyone and clean parts. I am starting with the stock 2.0 until I get it sorted out, then we'll see. I do mostly auto X and track days. When you get yours running let me know if you ever head to thunderhill for testing. would like to see it.
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Just got an email from Dan about some of my requests/questions. They will not be adding the cross bar to any cars.....kinda sucks. I would hate to mess up the powder coat.
I have 90% of all the parts ready to go, new Subaru hardware, I'll take some pictures of the parts later today and add them to the reserved posts above. The Legacy GT trans is having the TBD installed right now, and I'm just waiting for them to ship my completed race motor from AJW.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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fasterer and furiouser
That stinks, I did see someone mod a powder coated cage once, obviously ground off the powder, did the welds, and then recoated by building an insulated box around the joint and a heat gun. you couldn't tell. Not sure about longevity but it was pretty cool.
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I guess there is always rollbar padding.... haha
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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It's coming!
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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The moment it first shows up is a bit surreal (at least for me). It's a bit of "this is awesome" and "whoa....it's really here!"
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mod the powder coated chassis, buy a powder kit from eastwood, buy an IR light and you can touch up areas as you wish
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
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Chad, what is the expected arrival date?
Doug
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Originally Posted by
Mechie3
The moment it first shows up is a bit surreal (at least for me). It's a bit of "this is awesome" and "whoa....it's really here!"
combined with a bit of "what have I gotten myself into"?
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Originally Posted by
68GT500MAN
Chad, what is the expected arrival date?
Doug
Not sure quite yet. Stewart will pick it up on the 5th I believe.
1. Race motor is waiting in the garage.
2. 5 Speed Legacy GT trans with TSB installed should be finished tomorrow.
3. Tons of NEW suspension parts are waiting to be used
4. I still need to move out the 1972 911 Restoration to my Dad's garage to make room for the 818R.
Last edited by C.Plavan; 10-03-2013 at 02:07 PM.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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Is the blue one a real ST? Either way sweet ride.
I can do anything with enough time and money.
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Originally Posted by
D2W
Is the blue one a real ST? Either way sweet ride.
Thanks- I wish it was real! I would not be racing it if it was $$$$$$$$$$$ . It has a lot of the ST parts, but the chassis is a 69 911E. The rear flares were hand made (English Wheel) using ST flares as a template. One notable fact is that Patrick Long (Porsche Factory Driver) has raced it with me a few times in enduros. I'll be racing it at COTA (Austin, Tx) later this month at the SVRA National Championships. I cant wait to drive that Formula 1 track.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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I got the call last night from Stewart. I will have it before noon on Sunday!
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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fasterer and furiouser
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Are you going to have an unloading party?
Doug
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Originally Posted by
68GT500MAN
Are you going to have an unloading party?
Doug
Haha- No. Just got another call....now Monday
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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I'll be interested to see how that header fits in the 818. I was looking at the same one. Looks like a really high quality piece.
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Longisland (Jeff) and I have been working on solutions for the 818R spacers (FF5 says to use stacks of washers which I'm not a fan of) This is what I came up with for the LCA (Aluminum).
Outer
Inner
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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I have been "Nesting" in the garage. I moved the project 911 to my Dads house. Cleaned everything up, and moved the motor to the engine stand. Tomorrow is the big day.
I removed all the stock header junk and installed the new Group N motor mounts. I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with that stock TD04.... I have never been a Subaru guy before, but I have seen bigger snails in the garden.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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fasterer and furiouser
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Originally Posted by
longislandwrx
Hahahahahaha. Good one. T Minus 3 hours.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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It's landed. So cool.
I'm going through Box Hell. So far they sent me the wrong shocks (yellow). It came with a Kirkey seat???? I thought it didn't. I'll just sell it if someone wants it.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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fasterer and furiouser
YES! I declined my seat and received a $395 credit. My red shocks just shipped out today.
And don't socks on the jack stands work great?
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Originally Posted by
longislandwrx
YES! I declined my seat and received a $395 credit. My red shocks just shipped out today.
And don't socks on the jack stands work great?
The driver told me about the socks on the jackstands...... I have never thought of that, great idea! I had four crappy thick green socks to get rid of.
My backorder list:
L/R door liner
Assembly manual
Upper Ball Joints
Front #300 springs
Headlight set?
Brake line 8"
818 Carbon Fiber rear diffuser
818 Carbon Fiber race splitter
Large Road Race Spoiler (dropship)
R shorty windshield.
My Racetech halo seat fits. I'll have to mess around with the mounts, but it is doable. I was worried the halo would be too close to the diagonal bar. It fits perfect, but those darn angled bars near the floor are really going to restrict any movement.
I also ordered a few sets of those CAD spacers I made up. I should have them in a couple of weeks. I'll verify fit and share them with any fellow 818R Pioneers. I'll design the upper mount/spacer when I get some time.
Last edited by C.Plavan; 10-14-2013 at 04:13 PM.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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Looks great!
Originally Posted by
C.Plavan
The driver told me about the socks on the jackstands...... I have never thought of that, great idea! I had four crappy thick green socks to get rid of.
Awesome tip... we just moved and my wife was *****ing at me for holding on to some thick old wool socks, instead of donating them. Now I'll rub it in her face for finding a use for them!
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fasterer and furiouser
The halo on that seat looks perfect. The fronts should be 500lb, so when you call about your red shocks mention that to them. Your rears are probably wrong too, (should be 300lbs)
I think the spacers you ordered will be fine, I posted an image on my build thread.
Last edited by longislandwrx; 10-15-2013 at 07:16 AM.
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Those angled bars do suck, don't they? The seat just fits with almost no adjustment range
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
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Originally Posted by
RM1SepEx
Those angled bars do suck, don't they? The seat just fits with almost no adjustment range
Yes they do- I may be cutting out the drivers side and welding in a new brace that does not get in the way. I wont know until I get the pedals/steering wheel in.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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Originally Posted by
longislandwrx
The halo on that seat looks perfect. The fronts should be 500lb, so when you call about your red shocks mention that to them. Your rears are probably wrong too, (should be 300lbs)
I think the spacers you ordered will be fine, I posted an image on my build thread.
You are right- I was just typing too fast to get back in the garage. I have the 500lb fronts- waiting for the 300lb rear springs.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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Originally Posted by
C.Plavan
Yes they do- I may be cutting out the drivers side and welding in a new brace that does not get in the way. I wont know until I get the pedals/steering wheel in.
When I was picking up my 818S in August one of the FFR guys ( no name to be mentioned) told me it was OK to get rid of those bars in front of the seat. I made the comment that it impeded much forward and aft movement. So take this as you want. I don't need them removed for me but, I may for a customer car if needed.
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Just out of curiosity, why go threw all the headache of designing and paying for the spacers as opposed to getting new transverse links to give you the offset you need? If you didn't want to pay for aftermarket ones the stock Forester links have the correct geometry.
Last edited by fateo66; 10-15-2013 at 10:27 AM.
1997 RSVX Impreza Awesomeness!
1999 RHD 22B RSTI
2002 WRX
2005 Saabaru
2008 STI
2013 FFR 818 #30
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fasterer and furiouser
Does that really give you an additional 7/8" of height?
I thought the forester ones gave you like 7/16s tops.
Last edited by longislandwrx; 10-15-2013 at 11:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by
C.Plavan
It's landed. So cool.
I'm going through Box Hell. So far they sent me the wrong shocks (yellow). It came with a Kirkey seat???? I thought it didn't. I'll just sell it if someone wants it.
Hey I would be interested in the seat. What size seat is it? What are you looking to get for it?
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Originally Posted by
fateo66
Just out of curiosity, why go threw all the headache of designing and paying for the spacers as opposed to getting new transverse links to give you the offset you need? If you didn't want to pay for aftermarket ones the stock Forester links have the correct geometry.
It's not the correct geometry for "R" height. If you raise the LCA's ~1", you need to raise everything ~1"- The UCA need to go up above the mounts now too. So those mounts you have pictured in no way will work for the "R" suspension height. That's why we have to make pieces/spacers out of Aluminum. Plus those are ~$325
Last edited by C.Plavan; 10-15-2013 at 10:58 AM.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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In this picture the I have my LCA in the "R" holes because of the better roll center. I have a handfull of different transverse links and tried every combo possible including mounting the links on top of the chassis mounts and in the end this setup worked the best. Which is why I took the picture without the rear stud bolted in, to show that they were aligned.
One thing to consider is suspension bind, I see all the time people talking about ways to increase caster but don't take into account how it puts pressure on the front bushing. I'm not sure how much the Forrester/ ALK/ PSRS kits offset from the factory WRX/STI but in order to say that the rear needs to be lifted 1" would imply that the front and rear are perfectly lined up and I'm not so confident that they are. FFR designed an built a incredible car but they did over look a few things and some times there calculations are not right IMO. The steering rack in not in the correct location, FFR says to cut 1.1" off the left upper arm but I calculated .222" off the right and .513" off the left in order to make the arm symmetrically adjustable. They use 3/8" sway bar endlinks in a 10m hole and the gas tank is a horrible design for any racing but in a straight line. I'm not complaining here I'm just saying some things need to be taken with a grain of salt and you might want to double check a few things.
The Perrin ones are $325 but stock Forrester links have the exact same offset and can be had for nearly free.
1997 RSVX Impreza Awesomeness!
1999 RHD 22B RSTI
2002 WRX
2005 Saabaru
2008 STI
2013 FFR 818 #30
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Originally Posted by
fateo66
In this picture the I have my LCA in the "R" holes because of the better roll center. I have a handfull of different transverse links and tried every combo possible including mounting the links on top of the chassis mounts and in the end this setup worked the best. Which is why I took the picture without the rear stud bolted in, to show that they were aligned.
One thing to consider is suspension bind, I see all the time people talking about ways to increase caster but don't take into account how it puts pressure on the front bushing. I'm not sure how much the Forrester/ ALK/ PSRS kits offset from the factory WRX/STI but in order to say that the rear needs to be lifted 1" would imply that the front and rear are perfectly lined up and I'm not so confident that they are. FFR designed an built a incredible car but they did over look a few things and some times there calculations are not right IMO. The steering rack in not in the correct location, FFR says to cut 1.1" off the left upper arm but I calculated .222" off the right and .513" off the left in order to make the arm symmetrically adjustable. They use 3/8" sway bar endlinks in a 10m hole and the gas tank is a horrible design for any racing but in a straight line. I'm not complaining here I'm just saying some things need to be taken with a grain of salt and you might want to double check a few things.
The Perrin ones are $325 but stock Forrester links have the exact same offset and can be had for nearly free.
I hear ya. They must be doing something right with the lap times the 818R is posting back East. I agree, it may not be perfect, but we are all learning about this great car.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
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