Thanks guys.
I used the same clevis for each. McMaster http://www.mcmaster.com/#6414k13/=w2w4je
I drilled them out to 1.00 mm. And taped them to 1/4-28.
On the fore-aft one, I cut on of the legs off the clevis.
Bob
A couple more pictures
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Thanks guys.
I used the same clevis for each. McMaster http://www.mcmaster.com/#6414k13/=w2w4je
I drilled them out to 1.00 mm. And taped them to 1/4-28.
On the fore-aft one, I cut on of the legs off the clevis.
Bob
A couple more pictures
Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 02-26-2015 at 02:22 PM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
That's perfect, much appreciated! Was there anything else needed to make this setup work? Are those 1" aluminum spacers and can I find those cable tie downs on McMaster also? Just trying to order everything at once to avoid multiple shipping costs.
Yes, 1/4" x 1" long unthreaded spacers and straps from MMC.
I thought the MMC straps were weak. But I'm sticking with them.
I did use the blue plate off of post#388. You could use the MR2 plate cut down.
I used 7ft cables with my side shift trans. You will need longer if you go with FFR shift brackets.
Bob
Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 02-26-2015 at 03:09 PM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Bob, even with the stock rear shift location my new cables are 7 feet. I cut off the side to side stud and redrilled it for a 1/4 inch bolt. I used a 1/4 -28 threaded female rod end. I drilled the front to back hole 3/8 and inserted a 3/8 OD, 1/4 ID bronze bushing so that I could use a female rod end on that one too. My plate is on top of the tunnel so I need to shim up the clamps from McMaster for the cables. I'll have photos tomorrow, just started mounting it this afternoon. While I can easily heat the garage a bit to make it livable, my feet get cold and I have to come in to warm them!
I modified the rear brackets and added a bell crank for the twist motion. I mounted that cable to a piece of 2 x 2 aluminum and bolted it with the same holes as the chopped up stock bracket. Photos tomorrow on my thread... ???
Cables I used http://www.boatersland.com/telccx43307.html
Last edited by RM1SepEx; 02-27-2015 at 10:56 AM.
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Bob, almost done... here are some teaser shots. A friend turned the link for the rear twist linkage, I'll assemble tomorrow after my solar EV meeting... attempting to justify PV panels using a 30% tax credit!
Bob, my ball and socket joint allows too much movement of the ball, I've obviously assembled something wrong!
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Edit: Figured it out, too much clearance around the hole, doesn't hold the socket down well, will "fix" tomorrow with a thin piece of aluminum to hold it down
Last edited by RM1SepEx; 02-26-2015 at 08:35 PM.
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
I added a .050 sheet of aluminum with the proper sized hole on top of the shifter "cup", now it feels AWESOME
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
Guys, thanks for the great MR2 shifter idea's
You could do the same thing by reversing the std shifter and either use a second bellcrank to revrse the fore and aft movement or do what Andrew and Tamra did and relocate the fore aft cable to above the pivot point. I have one of FFR's billet shifters for sale that would work awesome in that orientation if you want to show off some nice aluminum machining http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...Billet-Shifter $50 less than from FFR with free shipping. I actually think that if you used long Teleflex cables instead of the cheap ones provided with the kit the loops wouldn't be an issue
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
Just thought I'd post this for all my auto crosser friends
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Such a great video! Our first autox is next weekend, weather dependent. We won't be bringing the 818 out yet, but we'll likely make an appearance in our Miata and see if we remember how to drive.
Tamra
Building 818SR #297 picked up 10/25/14 with Andrew (xxguitarist)
First start 12/21/14, First "drive" 1/17/15
First Dyno at EFI Logics 3/7/15- 310whp at 15psi for break in, full spool by ~3500rpm!
First autocross 3/29/15
1st Registered 818 in Connecticut 7/24/2015. 9 months - 1 day from kit pickup!
I decided to bring the dog house home to assemble it.
From what I'm learning, I am thinking that it would have been much more difficult on the car.
I have not trimmed anything yet. Putting the fender, hood and bumpers together. Everything had to be pulled in place. I am hoping that leaving it all set together for a few days, the parts will start to play together.
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I tried to put the headlight buckets in with no success. The headlights were sitting way to high for the nose of the fender to meet the bumper.
Right know I have the headlights in with no buckets. I only have some minor trimming to do to get a good fit of the lens of the headlight to the bumper. I probably won't trim the fenders headlight interface.
I will have to get creative with the buckets to hold the headlights in. Here is what it looks like from the inside right now.
Bob
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Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 03-07-2015 at 09:30 PM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Bob, the FFR black headlights supports (plastic) aren't fitted on your last pic, those are the ones that make the headlights sit way too high?
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
I tried both the Fiberglass buckets and the Plastic buckets. I could not get close with either type.
So temporarily, I put the headlights in with NO buckets. (as shown in the pictures above)
Now that I know where they headlights have to be, I will try and make the buckets work.
Bob
Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 03-08-2015 at 08:47 PM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
In Michael's impreza there are 3 plastic buttons for the horn.
They are on the back of the steering wheel air bag.
Does somebody have some extra ones or know the part number so I can buy them.
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Thanks
Bob
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
I'll look this AM Bob...
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
I'm a very happy camper.
Just completed my first headlight.
No cutting or trimming fiberglass.
No Gaps, looks great. IMO.
Spent about 6-8 hours on this one. A lot of trial and error.
The next light should take about an hour now that I know what to do.
I will take pictures and do a write up on the next one.
Don't even think about doing this on the car, that would be ridicules.
Bob
PS: here is a like to my real job.
http://www.gizmag.com/lightning-ls21...36470/pictures
Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 03-11-2015 at 02:52 AM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Id like to see it installed on the chassis. Gaps definitely change once you try to bolt everything together.
Can't wait to see your procedure Bob, I'll try to mimic it (will certainly fail cuz I am not as good as you but at least I'll try ). Interesting point Kurk brought up, hopefully it fits well once bolted on.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Another tip: I cut off approx 1/2" from the side of the mounting points on the frame where the bumper mounts behind the headlight and rounded the corner to match the fiberglass more or less. That mount created a lot of fitment frustration before realizing that it was the culprit.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Why are the headlights such a pain ? Seems like you just slap that puppy in ?
Tony Nadalin
2022 SOVREN Championship
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
Tony Nadalin
2022 SOVREN Championship
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
Wait till I post the video before comments. That will make it much clearer.
Kurk818, I am going to try and install my dog house as one complete (propery gapped) assembly.
Then wedge,shim,cut,cuss,fill,cuss,grind,cuss as necessary, or I might just "slap that puppy"
Do you think that will work?
Bob
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Bob, you have to clip the front mounting pads almost everyone finds that the front bracing sits too far to the left, Do some simple diagonal measurements and you will see, once you cut them back 3/8 or so you can get the nose on square, as is the nose just fits on those pads, you can't shift it around to get it even and square
I have fiberglass buckets, you need to cut them back where the diagonal brace comes up from the bottom. My headlights fit fine with the buckets up tight to the nose
I'm working out an alternative brace for the front under the bucket. The steel "Z" braces are a joke, far too long. I want to bond in a 1/4 20 stud so I don't have an exposed screw under the headlight and use a spacer so I can adjust the height of the headlight from underneath... http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-threaded-rods/=w9mdsx
Last edited by RM1SepEx; 03-11-2015 at 04:05 PM.
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
Hey Dan
I don't know if my frame will be to far to the left. Remember my steering rack is 20mm to far to the right.
Correction: my rack is 20mm to far left.
But I will measure once and cut 6 times.
I have both kinds of buckets. Tony suggested the plastic ones, so that is what I used.
I made a z brace with an adjustable bonded stud.
Bob
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Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 03-11-2015 at 04:22 PM.
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
that's the ticket, same as my idea...
the rack isn't the issue it's those rectangular pads that the nose sits on. Measure diagonally from the windshield tubing or some other easy to get to spot. When they weld up the radiator frame it distorts to the left due to how it is fixtured (as per Chris, our resident welding poohbah) If you look at the online GRM video they clip the left pads to even it out. Right now the spacing is such that it forces the nose to be crooked. I clipped 3/8 off the front, 3/8 off the outside of the left pad. I also put a nice 3/8 radius on the outside points of those brackets. This allows you to move the nose side to side and front to back. See how I can slide my nose onto the pads to totally cover the pads...
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You can see how much I had to cut the buckets to allow the nose to slide back. I still need a piece of aluminum angle at the bottom for the front lower attachment.
you can also see how my nose has to be pushed to the right to square up, the fiberglass is at the edge of the radiator on the right and over it about 1/4 on the left...
Oh yeah, I loosened all the bolts and used a ratchet strap to pull it to the right and still had to grind the pad. You can move it quite a bit just by pulling it against the mounting brackets due to hole clearance etc...
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Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
I published my headlight install video in the body & Interior - 818 Forum
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post191708
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Bob,
Nicely done. It will be a help when I do mine soon.
Larry
Nope, my radiator bracket is off to the left, Chris' was too, if you trim the pads it allows you to move the front end around to get it straight. There is some slop in the tabs, holes etc... mine didn't allow you to center the radiator frame. I seem to remember some not even able to get the holes to align, the tabs to slide between each other. Without cutting the pads my nose, like others, could not be put in place centered, just like in the GRM build video
Bob an 1/8 isn't bad, mine was 3/8 and between the sharp corner forcing the nose into one place and it being the exact width of the fiberglass the nose could only be placed 3/8 off to the left. If you trim the pads the nose can be moved around to center it and to move it back. The manual expects it to bolt to the front lower bar, even trimming the pads my nose can't go back that far...
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
Today we installed our rear firewall and cockpit aluminum.
Michael wants the racecar look. So all the aluminum is outside the frame. It will be a simple interior with no carpet or vinyl.
We also test fit the rear of the body. The humps hit the roll bar by about 1/4" so I will move the body back about that far.
Probably going to go with the double trapezoid in the rear to vent my rear radiator.
Bob
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread
Is the rear fitment as good as it looks in the photo? Any trimming yet?
Tamra
Building 818SR #297 picked up 10/25/14 with Andrew (xxguitarist)
First start 12/21/14, First "drive" 1/17/15
First Dyno at EFI Logics 3/7/15- 310whp at 15psi for break in, full spool by ~3500rpm!
First autocross 3/29/15
1st Registered 818 in Connecticut 7/24/2015. 9 months - 1 day from kit pickup!
No trimming yet.
The engine cover (humps) is to tight in the front and has a 1/2" gap in the back. We may need on of mechie3 anti spreader bars.
The trunk cover will easily be pulled down by the pins to fit. Both covers with need edge trimming to fit flush.
Here is a couple more pictures.
rear view.jpg
inside view.jpg
818S #22 Candy Blue Frame, Front Gas Tank, 2.5L Turbo, Rear radiator, Shortened Transmission, Wookiee Compatible, Console mounted MR2 Shifter, Custom ECU panel, AWIC soon
My Son Michael's Turbo ICE Build X22 http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...rts-818S-Build
My Electric Supercar Build X21 (on hold until winter) http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...e-Build-Thread