What would or could cause the switch to trip? And what would be the symptoms of a tripped or open inertia switch?
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What would or could cause the switch to trip? And what would be the symptoms of a tripped or open inertia switch?
MK4 #9121 - Complete kit - Stroked 351, T5x, 3.55 Rear End, 3-Link - Pickup 6/17/17, 1st start 12/2/17, Go-Kart 12/9/17, Road Worthy 4/27/18
The switch is designed to trip in a crash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_switch
When tripped, it breaks the ground continuity to the fuel pump relay, thereby preventing the fuel pump from running.
Dave
Last edited by Papa; 04-05-2018 at 07:30 AM.
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Any hard jolt will trip the switch; a tripped inertia switch typically rattles when you shake it. Also, you'll hear it "click" into place when you press the plunger.
Also take a look at http://www.ffcars.com/forums/17-fact...-question.html describing a problem getting electricity to the fuel pump. Root cause turned out to be that the inertia switch was mis-wired.
My switch was mis-wired. After removing the switch from its connector, I used an ohm meter to verify that the switch required pins 1 and 3 to operate; it was wired to use pins 1 and 2 (or 2 and 3, I don’t really know which). In any event, I took the connector apart and moved the female pin from the center socket to the outboard socket so that the switch would operate correctly.
No pictures, as the referenced thread has all the help you need to determine if you have the problem and correct it if you do.
John
Last edited by phileas_fogg; 04-05-2018 at 09:41 AM.
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No impact to a mechanical fuel pump vehicle, correct?
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Mine was also miss-wired. Needed to move the connections to 1 and 3.
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Same here. Mount it straight up and inbetween the pump and ground. I used a small piece of powdercoated black steel. The button needs to be pointing up. When you flip, hit, roll, etc, it will trip the pump. I got mine from a 90 ford mustang. I also ran a fuel pump relay circuit and doubled up the wires to create redundancy in the circuit. The relay is further powered by my EFI system.
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Mount it where you can easily reach it, but it's still out of the way..
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I actually glued a small plastic nubb to the top of my inertia switch. So I can pop the trunk and pull it up to kill the fuel pump... if I felt the need to do so.
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I drilled a hole in the trunk floor just above where I mounted the switch in the above picture. Covered it with a rubber plug, it looks clean and doesnt protrude into my trunk area. Just pop the plug and reset the switch, easy access and flush mounted to the floor.
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Ford wired that switch to the hot side of the pump for a reason. If there was an accident you should not have a hot wire connect to the fuel pump. A pinched wire could let the pump continue to run, or create a spark near leaking fuel. Ford spends million designing cars, it wasn't a random idea to interrupt the power lead to the pump.
That makes perfect sense.
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True but Ford never built AC Cobras, in fact they did not have an inertia switch. Also to play the devils advocate, do you know how many carbed cars are out there that keep running after an accident? What about cars converted to EFI aftermarket like my Fitech. A quick google search shows that there are very few even considering it. It makes it a greater concern to the aftermarket that they shoud be included in the design of aftermarket systems. The truth is, if you have any kind of inertia switch in these cars, you are already well ahead of the status quo.
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Doing something like this can get it done.
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Accidently pushing it while cleaning up around it or someone pushing it when they don't know what it is. It is a nice red button. Both have happen to me in the last two months while in go-cart.
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