Putting the the lower pieces is a test of your problem solving skills. Some ways it drops right in, other ways it will never fit!
You’re not kidding. Doing it with fresh gloss powder coat ups the challenge substantially. There was a period of time this afternoon where I thought it was impossible. However it is possible, but only one way. Both sides are a pain.
How much overlap did you have on the gusset that the steering bearing is near?
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
12 year olds don't make mistakes, They etch lifelong memories that serve as benchmarks for us all. I would not touch those minor scratches. Congratulations on the best build I have seen. Kudos for your daughter. Tell her to kick the old man to the curb and continue with her build. It will happen.
With my daughter off to summer camp for three weeks, my pace has slowed to a crawl. Kind of a pain in the neck to promise to not do too much while she was gone....But I did receive my POL, and have made some substantive changes to my plan. Other good news is the 6.0L is in the middle of its reconditioning and should be done this week.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
Seth
I notice you have a MC for a hydraulic clutch, what size bore is it? Most don't use the 0.75" bore that FF has in their hydraulic clutch option. It usually doesn't result in enough travel of the slave or hydraulic throwout bearing
Steve
Gen 1 '33 Hot Rod #1104
347 with Holley Sniper & Hyperspark, TKO600, IRS, 245/40R18 & 315/30R18, DRL, Digital Guard Dog keyless Ignition
Steve,
Thank you for the heads up. I was aware of the potential. However, I figured I would wait and see if it worked. It’s bought and paid for and my combination of throwout bearing may be different enough to be satisfied with the results. If not, I’ll change it. Like everything else with this car, I try it...if it doesn’t work, I chuck it.
Part of the experience for my daughter is teaching her to be patient and understand that it’s OK to work iteratively. We don’t have to nail it out of the gate. She has to be willing to modify, adapt and make things work through experience.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
Perfect. good strategy. I tried it, didn't give me enough throw with my RAM bearing. Just put in the new MC (1.125") last night but will be awhile before I bleed the system and try it out. Good luck keeping hands off for 3 weeks Cheers
Gen 1 '33 Hot Rod #1104
347 with Holley Sniper & Hyperspark, TKO600, IRS, 245/40R18 & 315/30R18, DRL, Digital Guard Dog keyless Ignition
With my daughter off to summer camp for three weeks, my pace has slowed to a crawl. Kind of a pain in the neck to promise to not do too much while she was gone....But I did receive my POL, and have made some substantive changes to my plan. Other good news is the 6.0L is in the middle of its reconditioning and should be done this week.
I don't have any experience with the Gen. II frame but I had to swap the thermostat housing for a swivel type and I had to change the exhaust manifolds for my LS3.
33 Hot Rod (Gen 1) Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
LS3 495hp/480 lb. ft., 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter, 13 inch Wilwood front and 11.68 Cobra rear brakes, Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires.
I don't have any experience with the Gen. II frame but I had to swap the thermostat housing for a swivel type and I had to change the exhaust manifolds for my LS3.
Thank you for the heads up
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
After much deliberation and a whole bunch of test fits, I made some decisions on the master cylinder reservoirs.
100% percent hidden hardware and hoses. Bonded firewall. Total shave look.
Now to see if I can pull it off.
Kid gets home on Sunday and I have to take apart all the pre-fit so that she can assemble.
Are you going with a hood on the car? I ask because I am not sure if the hood and the hood pins will clear where you have your reservoirs? I can't really help with that because I am going hoodless so I am not exactly sure where it hits.
No hood. If I add the hood later, I’ll have to get creative if there’s a conflict. This was a real pain to find just the right spot and hide everything.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
I agree, a total pain to try to find where to put it a triple reservoir. I didn't really want to drill through frame so I gave up and went individual. Good job!
Gen 1 '33 Hot Rod #1104
347 with Holley Sniper & Hyperspark, TKO600, IRS, 245/40R18 & 315/30R18, DRL, Digital Guard Dog keyless Ignition
I agree, a total pain to try to find where to put it a triple reservoir. I didn't really want to drill through frame so I gave up and went individual. Good job!
It’s funny, we drilled hundreds of holes for rivets, but one hole in the least structural part was a really tough sell for me.
In the end, it was the only spot that yielded the clean look I was after. Right or wrong, it’s what I did. If I decide later on I hate it, I have the technology to fix it.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
What ore you’re thoughts on doing the bonded firewall? I actually ordered a second firewall set because I’m thinking of using a 3M adhesive instead of bolting the firewall aluminum in place.
What ore you’re thoughts on doing the bonded firewall? I actually ordered a second firewall set because I’m thinking of using a 3M adhesive instead of bolting the firewall aluminum in place.
I’ve used it before, most recently to install a floor pan in a jeep that I didn’t want to tear up the paint on the outer rocker. It is ridiculously strong. They do require bare metal to bare metal in order to guarantee good adhesion. But that’s not a big deal.
As for whether or not it’s a good idea, I can’t think of any reason I would ever take the firewall out of an assembled car. And frankly, if I need to take it out it’s not impossible. It would require a heat gun....
The biggest issue that I can foresee is that you get one crack at it. And then every accessory mounted to the firewall has to be carefully planned out. Now with that said, I anticipate only having the reservoirs and the overflow bottle mounted to it.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
Finally my progeny is home and we continue with actual progress..... Engine is still on dyno, so I’ve been focusing on prefitting for her return. Today we reassembled the grill and installed it for the first time. Fuel system is now loosely plumbed and I’m waiting on fittings. Brakes are done, except for bleeding.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
Did I mention I have an unreasonable relationship with blue tape?
I do as well... One year for Christmas I received an odd shaped present from my wife. I could not figure it out and kept feeling of it to see what it was. Turns out it was a 12 pack of blue tape. I was thrilled! I use it when working on the Hot Rod and when working on one of my Rockets. You will always find blue tape at our house.
Seth, is that the LS engine your going to use? (nice intake manifold)
I found the 2 coolant pipes for the heater and the t-stat outlet was too close to the frame.
I pulled out the pipe fittings, threaded the holes, and screwed in 45° fittings.
For the t-stat outlet I used one that swivels.
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
Ditto what Jim said about the swivel t-stat housing. I would suggest you put a light coat of RTV on both sides of the o-ring when you install the stat. It's not fun to go back and it after everything is installed on the front of the car. Ask me how I know. I did use molded 90 degree heater hoses instead of changing the stock nipples.
33 Hot Rod (Gen 1) Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
LS3 495hp/480 lb. ft., 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter, 13 inch Wilwood front and 11.68 Cobra rear brakes, Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires.
1/4 x 14 NPT and 3/8 x 18 NPT.
I found the brass 45º fittings on Amazon.
Harbor Freight also sell these taps but they are garbage, at least the ones I looked at were.
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
I think it turned out fairly well. Interestingly, the corner Of the seam catches the light really aggressively and makes it look like a huge gap....there’s no gap.
Last edited by sethmark; 08-01-2019 at 12:51 PM.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20