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Awesome. I’m getting there!! Guess I’ll need some wheels first! Enjoy
- Peterh226 #1134
'33 Hot Rod 2nd Gen. Blueprint 383 Sniper TKO Delivered 4/14/2019
Full Fenders, Top, 3-Link, Wilwoods
YOKOHAMA ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R | Fr 245/45 R17 | Rr 295/30 R18
AR605 Torq-Thrust M Chrome | Fr 17x8 | Rr 18x10
Onward.... body on.
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Lower lip of firewall flange hits frame. I assume that’s a straight cut all the way down?
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And my first official WTF?
Really? The body hits the gas return? Cut flange?
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33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
The body is a new adventure..
- I trimmed quite a bit around the lower half of the firewall flange and down around the frame. I used the firewall to drive the front mounting of the body. Then the side by the doors where the screws (or whatever) will hold the door sill area to the body I trimmed the body around the frame so that it was not resting on the frame but had a little space. I expect the hood side lowers and the fenders to fit to the body in this area as well.
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I have not put the body back on since doing the fuel stuff, but you be able to trim that flange without any issue. The bigger thing will be waterfall clearance. That I am a bit curious about as well.
I ended up with slots rather than holes in the waterfall. I'm planning to turn these into slots so I can remove the waterfall without taking off the top and roll bar. I'm still debating about glueing (bonding?) the top in place anyway.
- Peterh226 #1134
'33 Hot Rod 2nd Gen. Blueprint 383 Sniper TKO Delivered 4/14/2019
Full Fenders, Top, 3-Link, Wilwoods
YOKOHAMA ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R | Fr 245/45 R17 | Rr 295/30 R18
AR605 Torq-Thrust M Chrome | Fr 17x8 | Rr 18x10
All initial concerns have been resolved. Taking the body on and off a dozen times is a pain. Truly you should do bodywork first. Truly.
Did I mention that this car is friggin fast?
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
My neighborhood is 2 miles around on a private road. Now aside from the fact that it would be a built-in racetrack except for the 3 speed bumps, I can drive the Hot Rod as much as I want. Today I just did that. Got the motor up to temp, let the fan kick on, bedded the brakes and enjoyed a brutal hot day in Georgia.
It’s going to be a friggin great car. Responsive, fast, and just cool to look at.
A good day. Enjoy your builds and your weekend.
I appreciate everyone’s counsel!
Last edited by sethmark; 09-27-2019 at 02:18 PM.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
O-boy! That's what this hole thing is about
The car is turning out beautiful. Great work. Can I bother you with a question? I'm looking for a few measurements that aren't on the web site as far as I can tell. I'm wondering how wide the front end is from outside to outside of the front tires. I know this will change depending on what offset wheels I use but curious about yours. Also looking for outside to outside on the frame rails in the area of the rear bulkhead. It appears that the frame is straight so I'm assuming the measurement would be the same all along the seating area? I know you're busy and possibly moving so if it's a lot to ask currently I understand. I'm actually looking at this frame for a Mid-engined Manx project. Would move that beautiful fron end back to just in front of the pedal assembly to get an 85 inch wheelbase. Trying to determine if my manx type body would come close to matching the width of the 33 frame.
It’s 65" wide at the front tires. The rear bulkhead is too covered up to measure reasonably, but the frame measurements are on the here.
Last edited by sethmark; 09-28-2019 at 03:39 PM.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Took the wife for her first rip around the test track.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
And reading for comprehension failed me. As it turns out there’s a body template for door hinge cut outs and a door doors hinge cut out. My mistake. Time to learn to fiberglass.........
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
I need to repair this screw up. I misread....
Should I fill the entire slot or just build up the edge?
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
If you have the original piece you cut out, glass it back into place from behind and then recut the slot as you need it. I did the same screw up and took a piece of 2" tape, taped the piece back on covering the entire hole, glassed it from the back with a couple layers of mat and then recut the slot in the proper location about an inch higher than where I had cut it! Teaches me for looking at it upside down at the time!! If you don't have the original piece, cut out the piece and use a portion of it to fill in the area you miscut. The bodywork will take care of the rest.
Have fun!!
Black & Copper #1028 ("The Mistress" according to my wife! )
Brought home: Nov. 2017, GoKart: May 2018, will be Plated & on the Road April 2020
Andreas
Thanks for your input. Ironically, it was a very innocent mistake. I double checked the part number against the inventory list and was satisfied. I did not realize that there was a door side and a body side. Reading for comprehension failed me.
Needless to say, I fixed it.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
I just did the first test fit of the body on my build and the conflict with the fuel lines (very similar to yours) was my first discovery (I even have a 2 x 4 in the same place). I loose fit the waterfall in place and it will also conflict with the fuel lines. So, I’m thinking I can’t just cut fiberglass. I’m wondering if I can find a 45 degree fitting but, I think it will still be in the way. Can I ask what you did as a work around?
I cut it with the expectation of having to modify the waterfall later on.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
So I’ve kind of stalled. I had always intended on driving the chassis for a while before starting body work, and with the impending move to Virginia, I got sidetracked.....
but I’ve been driving the go kart. A lot. I’ve learned that it does NOT LIKE a low gas situation. An inch at the bottom of the tank will not pickup....
It’s fast. It handles. It has a ton of brakes. it’s also loud. I like loud. But I need to get the doors hung, which is a tough proposition with a house for sale. Too much dust.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Congratulations on getting to put some miles on your go cart. I envy your situation. My observations were a lot like yours. After reading early posts, my first go cart surprised me. Especially on the braking and the ride. It was not near as rough as expected and stops on a dime.
33 Hot Rod (Gen 1) Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
LS3 495hp/480 lb. ft., 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter, 13 inch Wilwood front and 11.68 Cobra rear brakes, Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires.
The acceleration is astonishing. I’ve owned a lot of fast cars, from 911‘s to my mk 1 cobra. This is substantially faster. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 10 second quarter mile. I’m not sure what one of these cars would do with 500 or 600 hp. I can pretty much knock the tires off in any gear anyway.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Pressing on, I started hinges, door cutouts and brake lights.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Rough as hell, but the driver door fits in the hole. No surprises or disappointments. Does anyoen secure the bottom of the body to the frame at the firewall?
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
33 Hot Rod (Gen 1) Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
LS3 495hp/480 lb. ft., 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter, 13 inch Wilwood front and 11.68 Cobra rear brakes, Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires.
More doors. Still haven’t gotten the trick of the order of locking down the hinges.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Trunk lid is done and roughed in. Both doors still don’t feel well. More grind, more struggle.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
OK, quick question, not sure about the Gen2 doors, but the Gen1 doors had a bracket that would be right up against the back of the door. Once I had the door aligned as good as I could, with the door closed and from the inside, I drilled two 1/4" holes and placed two bolts in to hold that bracket in place and lock the skin to the inner door frame. The heads were on the outside, the nuts inside. That way when I worked the big hinge bolts (you see them in your pic) the shell would no longer slip in any direction. Here are a couple pics showing the bolts. Just an FYI in case you may be having that issue.
20191005_151119R.jpg In this shot you can see the two hex head bolts heads, I left them there and painted over them.
I could not find an inside door shot, will try and remember to get one tonight if I can. My son and I are helping a friend with terminal cancer getting his car done so he can enjoy it in case he can't beat it.
Andreas
Black & Copper #1028 ("The Mistress" according to my wife! )
Brought home: Nov. 2017, GoKart: May 2018, will be Plated & on the Road April 2020
Andreas
Nice touch on the copper escutcheons around the hinges, thinking of something similar for my build, but two piece to make removal a bit easier.
33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/
Thanks for the help. My brother has cancer as well. I totally appreciate helping out a friend with an expiration date. It’s super kind.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
If you are going to have door windows, the glass to top fitting will change with door fitting. My top is permanent but i would think that every time the top was on and off the glass could be a problem. Have fun!
Passenger door went in fine. Drivers door has too much warp. New one incoming....
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Unfortunately, I’m totally covered up with move stuff. The only upside to this move immediately is that I’ll be spitting distance from Virginia international Raceway.
Got home this morning after a week away and finally managed to get a door to close. Gaps are all over the place, but that can be dialed in later of course.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Watching the video I started to laugh. Can you imagine the average person looking at this video? their reaction - WTF, of course it closes. However, I can appreciate the amount of work that went into that!!!
Good luck with the move, glad it's not me - I did that just over 2 years ago after being in a place for 14 years, it was not fun sorting through all the crap....
Steve
Gen 1 '33 Hot Rod #1104
347 with Holley Sniper & Hyperspark, TKO600, IRS, 245/40R18 & 315/30R18, DRL, Digital Guard Dog keyless Ignition
The average person knows better than spending this kind of money on a rocketship.
We move a lot. Part of my wife’s gig. The upside is good, but the downside is it’s a pain in the neck. Of course, I cracked the door at the latch which will need to be repaired, but otherwise it opens and closes. It’s amazing how much time is in that stupid door.
33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19
Titled 2-28-20
MkI.IV 2643k
Following this build convinced me, I need a 33...so I got one
My original drivers door cracked at the latch as well as on the hinge flange side. Good luck with the move!
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33 HotRod #1142
Started 5-9-19
Kingwood, Texas
Mine did the same thing and I have to twist the hell out of it to get even close (washers where the long beam attached to the rear mount). For any of the folks that complained and got a new door, did it help???
- Peterh226 #1134
'33 Hot Rod 2nd Gen. Blueprint 383 Sniper TKO Delivered 4/14/2019
Full Fenders, Top, 3-Link, Wilwoods
YOKOHAMA ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R | Fr 245/45 R17 | Rr 295/30 R18
AR605 Torq-Thrust M Chrome | Fr 17x8 | Rr 18x10