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Did someone mention Chocolate Chip Cookies???
Regards - Randy
Racecar Fab/Support
GT40 331 - Weber IDAs, G50 5spd
69 Camaro SS 4spd
2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid - 44.2 MPG daily driver
2002 Avalanche 2500 - Avian Target
My GT-40 Build Site: http://www.GT-FORTY.com
The charter of this site is community NOT Factory Five Racing. Our company will be fine either way, but the community can be hurt when things like forums change hands in some ways. CHARITY has defined the FFR community. I could tell you literally 100's of stories of selflessness and fellowship and I dont know 10 percent of them. My daughter and kids with CF have benefitted tremendously from the money raised (all of which goes 100% to the charity) for Cystic Fibrosis. In big ways and small, the FFR community is already defined by charity. This forum will return to community with low ad rates to ENCOURAGE the guys who innovate and reward them with access to the community. I wont speak for Bill, but I will state clearly that this forum has a charter that is simply to build the community. Charity is assumed and already an installed part of a really good group of people because they are a really good group of people.
DAve Smith
FFR001
So, is speedking our first troll???
SOLD MY MK III Oct 4. 2010
1987 Buick Grand National (All original with only 16k miles on it)
1965 Buick Riviera Gran Sport (Currently undergoing a complete Frame off restoration)
2005 Ford F150 FX4 Supercrew (Daily Driver)
2001 Dodge Grand Caravan (Beater)
I think this is a great idea. We can still enjoy the FFCars Forum. I'm looking forward to seeing the same faces here.
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Winner: FFR Huntington Beach 2011 BEST OF SHOW • Winner: AHA Pomona, Ca 2011 BEST OF SHOW, BEST ENGINE, 1st Place Cobra Class $50K and 1st Place Cobra Class $30-$50K.
FFR cobra
RCR Superlite
RCR 917
04 Cobra/Z06/Diablo/bunch of other junk
Randy, you're cool, don't sweat it. The moderators at FFCARS.COM have done an excellent job to keep the peace, keep the politics down and keep distructive forces away. Dave Smith would do well to bring you all on board. Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And, as for not owning an FFR, I am carless at the moment but after building two and winning Targa Newfoundland with one of them I think I can slide for a while.
Great to see all the old handles showing up. As Bill (Mr Mustang) said, lets just get on with whatever. Lifes too short.
Were are the cookies!!!
MKlll FF#5501 427w Roller,TKO 600,Hydroboost Brakes,Heidt's Adjustable PS valve, 4 wheel cobra disc,355 gears, Moser axels,ISIS Intelligent Multiplex System ,heated seats.painted by (NCPAINTER)
In all honesty, I'd say the mods of ffcars.com are the best of what that site has to offer. I love you guys...Can I have your Bud Light?
As a vendor for many years on FFCars, it was very important to me that the forum ran well and offered a safe haven for my meager advertising dollars. From my perspective, everyone involved did a banner job of directing that forum through the years. I gave some when the call went out for help against the suit - not so much as to help Bill or the forum, but to make my small statement that the community was worth protecting from being stamped out - that community is safer now and exists regardless of where we might call home. As we've seen overseas lately, the net is powerful - but a sense of belonging and community is more powerful still. I'd love to see this place, this community, grow and add even more depth and value to our lives. It's been a big part of mine so far.
All the best, Don
When people say I have ADD, I tell them they don't understand . . . Hey look, a chicken!
". . . only try to realize the truth, there is no spoon."
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The event has existed in various names and forms since 2001. Proceeds go to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. It all began with chocolate chip cookies. Mr. Peirce has been one of the event's benefactors over the years. Keep your head up Alex!
Jeff
Last edited by Jeff Kleiner; 02-14-2011 at 06:21 PM.
Frank
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Factory Five Racing MKIII Super Snake Replica. Cannonball Cobra Drop Trunk Box, Horn Button and other machined Do Dads.
i.e.427 Chromed Full Width Roll Bar with integrated LED Third Brake Light.
I will never forget My Buddy Paul.
Regards - Randy
Racecar Fab/Support
GT40 331 - Weber IDAs, G50 5spd
69 Camaro SS 4spd
2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid - 44.2 MPG daily driver
2002 Avalanche 2500 - Avian Target
My GT-40 Build Site: http://www.GT-FORTY.com
SOLD MY MK III Oct 4. 2010
1987 Buick Grand National (All original with only 16k miles on it)
1965 Buick Riviera Gran Sport (Currently undergoing a complete Frame off restoration)
2005 Ford F150 FX4 Supercrew (Daily Driver)
2001 Dodge Grand Caravan (Beater)
I think this will be a good thing. Makes sense........new owners of the other site....losing site or never having any in the first place?
What writing is on the wall. Smart move Mr. Smith.
I've always believe that everyone has their own mind, and their own oppinion about things that happen in life.
But in regard to Bill Pierce and the FFCars forum, I don't really think it's fair to throw everything that he endured into a single pile.
For years, he did everything that he could, to make sure that the forum was alive and available to anyone interested in Factory Five related info. I would have to think that the majority of "members" are still not paying members. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Bill busted his butt to keep things going, even for those who weren't helping to support it.
Then Carol ****** comes along, and thinks that anyone who takes part in the Cobra Replica hobby should be sued. He set his sights on Bill and the "ffcobra" forum. He was already after Factory Five, trying to rape them as well.
In any event, Bill carried the cost of attorneys needed to defend himself against ******'s thugs, (I mean attorneys), for as long as he could before asking for help from the forum members.
He could have just let it fold and walk away with little impact to himself, but he went the extra mile(s) to make sure the the forum remained a viable source, and stayed in tact going forward.
Through all of this, and Because all of this, his personal life took a large hit. And I'm wondering how many of us would not have made the same decision that he was faced with?I think that given the circumstances, he made the choice that was right for him. I also feel that he did a hell of a great job trying to keep this community of people and Factory Five Info Resource together.
- Keep pouring all of his time and energy into maintaining the forum?
- Close the forum?
- Sell the forum to a company that will keep it available for the members?
Do I feel that my money was spent badly by trying to help him out? No, not in the least. He proved himself over and over, to be one of the truly good people of the forum.
I'd do it again if he needed it.
Now, with all that being said, I am very glad to be a part of this new forum. I think the one thing that was missing from the ffcars forum, was open participation from Factory Five. Now we'll have that as well.
Thanks Bill Pierce for all that you did for us, and Thank Dave Smith for what you're setting out to do for us to keep this going well into the future.
Last edited by The Stig; 02-16-2011 at 02:09 PM.
The Stig
Some say, that I only know two facts about ducks, (both being wrong); and that if I could be bothered, I could solve the "da Vinci Code" in 47 seconds...
All I know is that I'm called "The Stig".
GTM #0081
I'm just here for the cookies. So gimmie one!
I never heard of any issues with the mods on the other site. They kept things in line so we wouldnt end up hating each other.
Any mod that volunteers for the headaches of moderating this group of lunatics like us without currently owning an FFR deserves applause!
And X2 on the supporting members area - it's a good idea and a place where "boys can be boys". Optional entertainment at it's best!
timm
Well said Stig and agree whole heartedly..... for many years Bill did everything without $$ help...
Loudest noise seems to be from newer guys who dont know long history.....
Well, we all knew it would not take long for all of this B.S. to start. If you like the other forum more, then go there. Some will view both, some won't. To each his own.
I think this is going to be the sticky part for FFR to moderate. This type of B.S. In the past they have been able to sit back and keep a neutral stance as a sort of 3rd party. Even thought the "moderators" on this site are not employed by FFR (as far as I know...not making accusations, just no assumptions), I think FFR will still be lumped into social or political stances that require moderators to govern and in the end the site is owned by FFR. All I am saying is it may not be as "clean" as it was for FFR in the past. Either way, they will survive due to those "level minded" of their customers. I think this is a great move, a change was needed clearly IMO with the change of events. I look forward to reasonable advertising rates for the vendors (3rd party) that have helped to make FFR what it has become (I am not one of those, just saying).
Besides the cookies and potato pancakes, the whole "why" or "why not" has many layers and I don't think any of us as members can really know the answers because we are not going to get all of the parties involved to do a conference call with us. It is interesting though to see familiar names here on this forum that have animatedly expressed that they would never become members here. Welcome guys.
Frank
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Factory Five Racing MKIII Super Snake Replica. Cannonball Cobra Drop Trunk Box, Horn Button and other machined Do Dads.
i.e.427 Chromed Full Width Roll Bar with integrated LED Third Brake Light.
I will never forget My Buddy Paul.