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Seat Recline Mount Angle
So I'm in the process of mounting my seats and had a quick question regarding orientation. I wanted to elevate the front of the seat to give it a bit of a reclined backwards position (which I believe is pretty popular and something the Breeze kit does).
My question, for those of you who have the breeze kit or have made their own - is how much higher have you mounted the front of the seat relative the back (e.g., an inch?) or what relative seat angle is ideal with respect to the floor pan?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I cut a piece of 1" square tubung to go under the front bar of the seat that has the mounting holes in it. My seats were just mounted to the floor with no adjustment though. Gave it a little tilt back, seemed just right to me.
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Originally Posted by
Higgybulin
I cut a piece of 1" square tubung to go under the front bar of the seat that has the mounting holes in it. My seats were just mounted to the floor with no adjustment though. Gave it a little tilt back, seemed just right to me.
Mine is similar. It is kind of a pain but I drove around w/ some chunks of wood locating the seat. A piece behind it so it would not slide away from the pedals. A piece under the front for exactly the same reason you are thinking. I put a 1" piece right under the front edge and then I moved it backwards to simulate a thicker piece. I duct taped it to the bottom of the seat.
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What ever is comfortable for you. What someone else has done doesn't mean it will be right for you.
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In the past I've raised the front with washers and longer bolts. It was different seats but the concept is the same. Kept adding washers until I liked it.
Once done the seat and position felt much better and less like I was sliding forward during braking. The back angle was much more comfortable as well.
Jim
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I have these:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/kir-99214
Helped me get my seats exactly where I wanted it.
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Originally Posted by
rich grsc
What ever is comfortable for you. What someone else has done doesn't mean it will be right for you.
Abstolutely. I just wanted to get a feel so I knew where to start.
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Just remember the more the angle of the seat back, the further your seat sits forward. t may affect your leg room. I needed my seat mounted as far back as possible.
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I used the Breeze seat mount then added 1 inch square tubes to raise the seat up a little.
Steering wheel clearance was not a problem because I have a Flaming River tilt column.
The seat is mounted as far back as it will go.
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Originally Posted by
AC Bill
Just remember the more the angle of the seat back, the further your seat sits forward. t may affect your leg room. I needed my seat mounted as far back as possible.
I'm not the tallest guy in the world (5'10"ish) so I don't think that will be an issue but I appreciate you bring that up. I'll make sure to take that into consideration. I do have some adjustment rails I was planning on installing so that may help as well.
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I might be late to the party here but I wanted to chime in to be sure it's considered if the driver is NOT looking through the top, curved portion of the windshield. This is why I went through great lengths to get my seats lower. 2" makes a lot of difference. I might be 5'-11" now, was 6'-0" when I was a young 'un but that's another story...
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Originally Posted by
NiceGuyEddie
I might be late to the party here but I wanted to chime in to be sure it's considered if the driver is NOT looking through the top, curved portion of the windshield. This is why I went through great lengths to get my seats lower. 2" makes a lot of difference. I might be 5'-11" now, was 6'-0" when I was a young 'un but that's another story...
An excellent point. The sliding rails themselves are already about an inch thick so I suppose I will have to take that into account when mocking up the recline as well.
I plan on test-fitting the body shell here in the next few weeks (to double check the dash, locate the seats, and other items) so I'll try to mock up the windshield at that same time to see if the top is an issue.
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Hi Brew. For reference, the Breeze instructions say the front is raised up at 7 deg. angle. I measured about 1.75" in the front.
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Herb427sc,
Can you tell me a little more on your mod that added the Flaming River tilt column? What model number, any insight on the mod, what model of Roadster, and of course any installation tips.
Thanks
Bill
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Originally Posted by
BrewCityCobra
I'm not the tallest guy in the world (5'10"ish) so I don't think that will be an issue but I appreciate you bring that up. I'll make sure to take that into consideration. I do have some adjustment rails I was planning on installing so that may help as well.
Heh I used to be 5'10".... Now I'm closer to 5'8". The difficult part for me (other then getting old) is having the seat far enough forward I can properly operate the clutch and not having the steering wheel in my chest. I play a lot with the recline amount to get the proper steering wheel distance.
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Originally Posted by
maclonchas
Herb427sc,
Can you tell me a little more on your mod that added the Flaming River tilt column? What model number, any insight on the mod, what model of Roadster, and of course any installation tips.
Thanks
Bill
Interested in this mod as well. Any information you can provide is greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by
maclonchas
Herb427sc,
Can you tell me a little more on your mod that added the Flaming River tilt column? What model number, any insight on the mod, what model of Roadster, and of course any installation tips.
Thanks
Bill
This is on FFR 1901K purchased in 1999, so it is either a MK1 or MK2. 32 inch Flaming River tilt column. I made an aluminum block with a 2 inch hole
for the column to slide through. This took the place of the bearing block on top of the firewall crossmember. I used all Flaming River parts from the quick ratio
rack to the steering column. I have no pictures. I am in Florida and the car is in Tennessee.