Forte's

Visit our community sponsor

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  8
Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: Looking For some input on stripe dimension options and guidance

  1. #1
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like

    Looking For some input on stripe dimension options and guidance

    Hi all,

    Looking for some examples and dimensional guidance on stripe design.

    I realize there is a wide range of options. I’m thinking two wide stripes flanked by two outer small stripes.

    Let me know if you have any pictures and dimensional guidance (including suggested tapers)

    M
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  2. #2
    Senior Member rthomas98's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Ypsilanti, MI
    Posts
    350
    Post Thanks / Like
    This is the dimensional sheet I am aware of if it helps.


  3. Likes bill1982 liked this post
  4. #3
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    This is great. I recalled seeing it bot could not find it.

    Thanks for providing.
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  5. #4
    Senior Member CaptB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2021
    Location
    Memphis, TN
    Posts
    940
    Post Thanks / Like
    I'm finishing my striping and paint in about a week. This is the template I'm using.
    FFR Roadster Delivered 9/16/21
    Forte 427 Fuel Injected with TKX Transmission
    Forte's Axle

  6. #5
    Not a waxer Jeff Kleiner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Bloomington, Indiana
    Posts
    8,725
    Post Thanks / Like
    That diagram is for an ERA and doesn't jive with our cars. It won't surround the oil cooler scoop and if you try to hit their landmarks based on measurements at the nose, scoop, front of the hood and cockpit your stripes are going to be all over the place.

    Establish the centerline by pulling a string from the center of the license plate lamp all the way to nose through the midpoint between the headlights (it'll be 17 7/8").

    By the way, I recommend that you hold off on placing the scoop until after you have established your centerline...because the hood is slightly offset as well as skewed to the left so the center of the hood isn't the center of the car!

    That's your reference. The body color stripe through the middle is 1" wide front to back. Here's how I lay them out from there:

    Nose



    Front of cockpit



    Rear of cockpit



    Trunk



    Do that and it should end up looking something like this:



    Now, speaking of the trunk---The light pad and handle don’t align. Never have. If you just “connect the dots” center to center you can end up with stripes that lean to one side on the vertical surface of the lid like this:




    You can do like my buddy Brother Bat does and fill the handle hole then redrill it so that it’s off center as well but I deal with it by jumping the center so that it runs straight up from the handle as shown here. The outside of the stripes get adjusted slightly so that both the left and right are perfectly vertical.



    That "jump" ultimately gets hidden by the license plate and lamp and our eye doesn’t realize that the vertical portion of one stripe is approximately 3/16-1/4” wider than the other but everyone except Ray Charles will notice if your stripes look like this from behind //

    Hope that helps!

    Jeff
    Attached Images Attached Images

  7. Likes JimStone, Geoff H, cc2Arider liked this post
  8. #6
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Hi Jeff,

    As aways, thanks for the guidance. Indeed, I want to surround the oil cooler scoop so wider it is ...

    I see you are a little light on the taper ?

    Noted on the misaligned trunk offset in the truck light pad (I and seen you post before on this ).

    Thanks,

    M
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  9. #7
    Not a waxer Jeff Kleiner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Bloomington, Indiana
    Posts
    8,725
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by mlewis View Post

    I see you are a little light on the taper ?
    By what standards? Depends on whether you want to actually see a taper or have the stripes appear straight as they do in the overhead photo I posted. Some that I've seen have a very obvious taper to the stripes. The diagram posted has the stripes starting at 6" at the top of the radiator opening and widening to 7 1/2" at the cowl. That much difference would show as a "V". In the end it's builder's choice on what they want

    Jeff

  10. #8
    Senior Member CraigS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Blacksburg, Va
    Posts
    5,006
    Post Thanks / Like
    I really like Jeff's layout. RE; taper. Being a bit 'light' does a couple things to my eyes. 1- Let's you surround the oil cooler opening w/o ending up w/ super wide stripes at the back of the hood/ windshield area. 2- The idea behind a taper is to make the stripes appear to not be tapered. But that visual effect depends a lot on how far from the car you are looking at it. Personally I really don't want to see a taper at all so minimum is best for me. A thought for you. I had a friend who had his FFR painted a common blue w/ white stripes layed out like Jeff's first example. But his wife was ex-Navy so the pinstripe outside of the wide stripes he had done in Navy yellow. Kind of a subtle Blue Angels look. It didn't stand out from 20ft away but, knowing the why behind it, I thought it looked fantastic.
    FFR MkII, 408W, Tremec TKO 500, 2015 IRS, DA QA1s, Forte front bar, APE hardtop.

  11. #9
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Hey Both, all great points.

    I agree on the lass tapered option. Appreciate the additional perspective.

    I was thinking of adding an accent stripe with a subtle accent color.
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  12. #10
    Senior Member hineas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    486
    Post Thanks / Like
    I recently painted my car and was going to follow the stripe dimensions on that sheet that was first posted. Jeff K recommended I follow the dimensions he told you. I'm glad I followed Jeff's advice.

    I also followed his advice on how to deal with the offset trunk latch. It turned out phenomenally well.

    This is the link to my body work thread post where I laid out and painted the stripes. I go over the dimensions I used. It is essentially the same as Jeff's post above, but described a little different.

    https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l=1#post527778

    Here is our finished product with Jeff's dimensions and recommendations.

    IMG_1028~2.jpg

    Screenshot_20230826_151757_Photos.jpg

    Screenshot_20230826_151830_Photos.jpg

    The sheet with dimensions on the beginning of the thread said to not wrap the stripe fully around the hood opening. We ended up mocking the stripe ending at the flat like it recommended and wrapping it all the way around. We liked the look of it going the film way through, but it was hard to tape.

    Screenshot_20230826_152027_Photos.jpg

    Screenshot_20230826_152144_Photos.jpg

    This is how the jog under the license plate holder that Jeff talked about. In the above pictures you can't tell it is offset.

    Screenshot_20230826_152632_Photos.jpg
    Mk4 Roadster with BluePrint 347 with Holley EFI and solid axle rear end.
    Build thread
    Body work and paint thread

  13. Likes CaptB, cdurbin328 liked this post
  14. #11
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Thanks for sharing

    This is a very helpful add.

    This is the direction I’m going (will start to lay them out this week)

    BTW, nice job on the paint.
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  15. #12
    Senior Member hineas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    486
    Post Thanks / Like
    Thanks!!! I'm pleased with the result having never painted a car before. I'm so glad we did it.
    Mk4 Roadster with BluePrint 347 with Holley EFI and solid axle rear end.
    Build thread
    Body work and paint thread

  16. #13
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Thanks again for the guidance on the stripe layout.

    Hope to get the main color sprayed this week

    IMG_2917.jpgIMG_2918.jpgIMG_2919.jpg
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  17. #14
    Senior Member Higgybulin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Southern Ontario/Cape Coral FL
    Posts
    593
    Post Thanks / Like
    How did it turn out?!
    Higgy
    MK4#? Ordered 11/30/24
    MK4 #11012 picked up 04/16/24
    MK4 #10616 picked up 4/10/23 SOLD
    MK4 #9759 picked up 4/3/19 SOLD

  18. #15
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Awesome.

    Working on final assembly.

    Here are some pics.
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  19. #16
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    One more time
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  20. #17
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    One more time (phone is not cooperating.
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  21. #18
    Senior Member mlewis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Groton, Massachusetts
    Posts
    396
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mk4 #9165, Base Kit with lots of options, Delivery on 08/17/2017, Coyote, TKO600, 2015 IRS, 18" Halibrands, 12.99" Wilwoods

  22. Likes egchewy79, Higgybulin liked this post
  23. #19
    Senior Member Higgybulin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Southern Ontario/Cape Coral FL
    Posts
    593
    Post Thanks / Like
    Looks Great! Love the color!
    MK4#? Ordered 11/30/24
    MK4 #11012 picked up 04/16/24
    MK4 #10616 picked up 4/10/23 SOLD
    MK4 #9759 picked up 4/3/19 SOLD

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

LCD Gauge Systems

Visit our community sponsor