Beware AI

[mrglaeser]

Just wanted to put this out there. Today I was looking into ordering a drive shaft for my roadster. Windsor block, TKX, Solid axel. And I searched in google 'length tko vs tkx'
The first results on google now are the AI results which were the following:

"The Tremec TKX is shorter than the older TKO transmission. The TKX has a lower height from the input shaft centerline to the top of the case, and its smaller case is made possible by an in-load design where everything enters from the back. The TKO, on the other hand, has a top-loader design where all the gears enter from the top, resulting in a larger case. The TKX's compact size makes it a good option for hot rodders who don't need the extra overdrive gear of the T56 and T56 Magnum transmissions"

However when I scrolled down and found an article on americanpowertrain.com
https://americanpowertrain.com/tko-v...RoCDAcQAvD_BwE

I found this 2/3 down the page.

"More features of the TKX

• Equipped with a high-performance short-throw billet aluminum shifter that isolates road noise while providing clean, crisp shifts.
• Multiple shift locations for installation flexibility.
• Robust design with internal three-rail shift system and steel shift forks.
• Wide gear width increases gear life and torque capacity.
• 26-spline input shaft with a 31-spline output shaft for added strength.
• Built-in reverse light switch and cruise control safety switch.
• Separate GM and Ford case patterns and input configurations. Integrated GM and Ford transmission mount patterns.
• Same length overall as the TKO. Can use any TKO crossmember and driveshaft.
• Bellhousing bolt patterns are the same. GM version and Ford version. GM TKO/TKX share the GM Muncie bolt pattern. Ford versions share the Ford Toploader transmission bolt pattern.
• Input shaft is 26-spline and bearing retainer design is the same. Can use any throwout bearing or hydraulic bearing for TKO or TKX.
• 31-spline output same for TKO/TKX.

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I think the AI generated content is misleading. I looked at the links provided by the AI and one is a Youtube video (I did not watch it) and one is to an article that is highlighted, I think to show where the information came from. The highlighted texted never says the unit is shorter rather it mentions the need to 'reduce the size of the transmission's envelope'. I did pull down the transcript of the video and searched for the word 'short' and it appears once referring to a short block. I searched for 'small' and it showed up 3 times. Once mentioning the trans tunnel requirements, and twice mention the case is smaller.

Additionally I searched for 'reduc', 'reduce', and 'reduced' no mentions. I also searched for 'length' and the only mention of this word they said 'we talked at length' but nothing in context of what I was looking for. So there is no obvious reason the AI chose to say shorter.

But in this case I would be more inclined to believe American power train article.

Anyway I guess I'm just saying beware the AI information Google gives you, as is it may not be very precise.

[ggunter]

I changed over form a TKO to a TKX and called American Driveline to see if there were any physical changes to the case like mounting to the bell and the rear mount. They told me all of the physical measurements as far as mounting and length were the same. The shifter was the same also. the only real physical differences are the rounding of the case to make tight floor dimensions easier to deal with. Everything else is the same. AI seems to be having growing pains at our expense. I think it will only get worse from here until we will not be able to believe anything.

[mrglaeser]

I changed over form a TKO to a TKX and called American Driveline to see if there were any physical changes to the case like mounting to the bell and the rear mount. They told me all of the physical measurements as far as mounting and length were the same. The shifter was the same also. the only real physical differences are the rounding of the case to make tight floor dimensions easier to deal with. Everything else is the same. AI seems to be having growing pains at our expense. I think it will only get worse from here until we will not be able to believe anything.

Thanks ggunter - that is what I got from reading articles.