Tim's Type 65 Build

[PNWTim]

I think my spacers were in one of the hardware packs, box 1?

Thanks Jim. I have searched Box 1 and no luck. It's also not listed on the inventory anywhere I can find. I am going to call FF in the morning and ask them where they are typically packed and see what they say.

[PNWTim]

So, I spoke with Dan this morning re: my missing spacers. He told me they are shipped in Box 26 with the lower control arms. I have the zerks, cotter pins, castle nuts and ball joint snap ring but no spacers. Bit of a mystery. Thankfully, he was kind enough to ship a pair out to me so I can button up the front end. He did indicate not to use any old spacer as these are cut from thick wall tubing then drilled with the appropriate taper for the ball joint shaft.

[PNWTim]

I have made a little progress over the last couple of weeks. Lots of research, shopping and fiddling around. I have some good things to report, some odd things to report and a not so great setback.

First the good. A few gratuitous pictures of the completed front and rear suspension:

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DS Rear Suspension.JPG

Did some electronics testing. Went through the driving lights, brake and clutch switches and the fan:

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Unfortunately, when I tested the fan I had inconclusive results. I got a lot of hum and about 1 RPM so not sure what to think. I am working under the assumption my 12 volt power supply should be adequate to test it. Any ideas?

Fan Testing.jpg

I also test mounted the steering linkage. Everything fit well and I was able to put the bearing on the outside of the footwell. There is not a lot of space between the couplers but I am not sure that matters. I can remove the lower shaft if needed as it stands which I am thinking is a good thing.

Steering Bearing.jpg

I also received my Metri-Pack depinning tool today so I fixed my RF harness. I will be sure to check all connections as I go. I'm a little surprised at the QA/QC here but seems to be an ongoing and random issue.

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And then last but by no means least, I confirmed my seats are not going to fit. I was hoping since they were take-outs from an older C6 Corvette they were the previous version that Paul B. installed. Unfortunately, they are not. I know Scott (Namrups) managed to use these but I am not sure how. They conflict in more places than I care to indicate. Even tilted and shoved as far to the rear as possible it's a non-starter for me. I'm really bummed as they are quite comfortable but going to go another direction. Intratrim is the lead candidate at this juncture. Since they provide only upholstered seats I need to have a consultation with Robin to see if he can accommodate my design and materials.

[JimStone]

Sorry to hear about your seats not fitting. The Intratrim's sure do look nice though.

I'm not necessarily advocating for it, but I did just go ahead and get Flex-a-Lite 105390 radiator fan. Saw too many people on here have the stock fan give out. Then I put power to the kit fan and it really did sound like a jet turbine spinning up.

Thanks for reminding me, I need to go check my wiring harness for mismatched pins


Edit:
I saw your post the the stock fan is a Maradyne unit. Looked those up and they're not exactly "cheap". Who knows if the Flex-a-Lite will really be more reliable...

[edwardb]

Zooming in on your power supply, it's only rated at 5-7 amps. That's not a lot and very well might not be enough to start your fan. I have a similar one (same brand) but higher amperage. Mine typically buzzes and indicates over current. But maybe yours doesn't. A quick check of your fan on another source, like a car battery, could tell you if the fan is good or not. Agree the stock fans are on the noisy side and there are others that are quieter with sometimes more capacity. But I've used the kit supplied fans on all my builds with no issues. The fan is barely heard, if at all, when the car is running and driving. These cars are a bit noisy if you haven't heard that already.

[PNWTim]

Zooming in on your power supply, it's only rated at 5-7 amps. That's not a lot and very well might not be enough to start your fan. I have a similar one (same brand) but higher amperage. Mine typically buzzes and indicates over current. But maybe yours doesn't. A quick check of your fan on another source, like a car battery, could tell you if the fan is good or not. Agree the stock fans are on the noisy side and there are others that are quieter with sometimes more capacity. But I've used the kit supplied fans on all my builds with no issues. The fan is barely heard, if at all, when the car is running and driving. These cars are a bit noisy if you haven't heard that already.

Great call out Paul. It did cross my mind that without a relay there might not be enough oomph coming out of that unit as that's what it sounded like. At this time I am not inclined to change out the fan, just need to confirm it works. I am not sure about this but I also have a Power Probe which may suffice to test it. I'll probably research that a bit and see.

I had asked a standalone question on the forum before I ordered my kit re: PWM fan control with the Coyote. Sounds like it's fairly rare in this group but I intend to install one. Between the soft start, lower noise and variable speed it should eliminate fan noise concerns. But, like you said, fan noise is just a little more background music with these cars.

[Namrups]

I had to jury rig both the seat slider and the roadster seat base from Breeze to get the seats to fit. They do not go all the way back to the rear wall but I am only 5'-8" so it works for me. I do have about 3" - 4" of travel and they do rub the roll bar.

[PNWTim]

Sorry to hear about your seats not fitting. The Intratrim's sure do look nice though.

I'm not necessarily advocating for it, but I did just go ahead and get Flex-a-Lite 105390 radiator fan. Saw too many people on here have the stock fan give out. Then I put power to the kit fan and it really did sound like a jet turbine spinning up.

Thanks for reminding me, I need to go check my wiring harness for mismatched pins


Edit:
I saw your post the the stock fan is a Maradyne unit. Looked those up and they're not exactly "cheap". Who knows if the Flex-a-Lite will really be more reliable...

I was actually pretty surprised to find the error in my harness but glad I looked. I didn't check any of the other connections but planning to do so before it leaves the bench.

Like I replied to Paul, if I can confirm the fan is operable (which I am thinking it is) I plan on using it. Interestingly enough your question about the fan prompted me to do a little research and it looks like Maradyne is a North American subsidiary of DCM - Taz.

https://maradynehp.com/about-us/

I also am going to use a PWM controller to manage the jet engine throttle on the fan to make it a little more manageable. It's an easy add and I have really appreciated it in my other build.

[PNWTim]

I had to jury rig both the seat slider and the roadster seat base from Breeze to get the seats to fit. They do not go all the way back to the rear wall but I am only 5'-8" so it works for me. I do have about 3" - 4" of travel and they do rub the roll bar.

Thanks Scott. I knew you had gotten them to work and I'm glad they do. I would be really curious at the dimensional changes between ours and Paul's setup. Seems like they simply widened them a bit top and bottom and maybe slightly changed the recline angle.

[Namrups]

My seats are about 1" wider than Pauls and the slider is 3/4" higher than Pauls. Not a big difference but enough to cause issues.

[Infinitybox]

Good luck, nice build Tim. If I can be of any help or answer questions about our system let me know as it would be a great addition to your car.

www.infinitybox.com

Anthony

[lewma]

go ahead and get Flex-a-Lite 105390 radiator fan.

Definitely worth it.

[edwardb]

Great call out Paul. It did cross my mind that without a relay there might not be enough oomph coming out of that unit as that's what it sounded like. At this time I am not inclined to change out the fan, just need to confirm it works. I am not sure about this but I also have a Power Probe which may suffice to test it. I'll probably research that a bit and see.

I had asked a standalone question on the forum before I ordered my kit re: PWM fan control with the Coyote. Sounds like it's fairly rare in this group but I intend to install one. Between the soft start, lower noise and variable speed it should eliminate fan noise concerns. But, like you said, fan noise is just a little more background music with these cars.

A relay in the circuit wouldn't change anything on the fan test from that power supply. Neither would a Power Probe unless you attached it to a higher current device. I use a Power Probe too and like it it. I clip it to a car battery when I'm using it. That's still the power source I'd suggest to confirm your fan's operation. I put a PWM fan controller on my 20th Anniversary Roadster with the Gen 2 Coyote mainly because Ford Performance had the PCM calibrated to where the fan never shut off once the engine reached even normal operating temp. The controller fixed that. The Gen 3 in my Coupe works the way it should so nothing additional there. Plus it has A/C which adds a bit of complexity to the fan circuit because of the trinary switch.