Side Scoops - Teaser Pic

[Kurk818]

Here are some teaser pics of side scoops that i intended sell as soon as i get a set fit and made on my car. Final detail of the mold will still take place.

[07FIREBLADE]

Take my money. Looks great so far.

[Kurk818]

Im quite happy with how its looking. Needs a few more tweeks. Every time i look at it, i want to change something.

Question: Exposed surface mounted fasteners or hidden?

[Bob_n_Cincy]

I want BIGGER!!!!

[Kurk818]

I want BIGGER!!!!

These actualy align with the front and rear wheel wells. Im considering making them oversize and cut to fit as need

[DMC7492]

Hi I agree with Bob. If they were as wide as the rear wheel fender, another inch or so. Don
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[Kurk818]

Hi I agree with Bob. If they were as wide as the rear wheel fender, another inch or so. Don
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You dont think that would look out of place?

[matteo92065]

I vote for hidden fasteners.

[FFRSpec72]

What are these scoops going to do ? Where do the they duct to ? Is that the duct behind the car ?

[C.Plavan]

Hard to tell since they are black. I was getting ready to make a set out of aluminum. Save me the trouble, but its hard to see but I think they need to be bigger also.

[07FIREBLADE]

Hidden fasteners and a bit bigger for me too. They look good though where there at though.

[Kurk818]

The ducts will be funneled back to my RMIC via ducting. The duct in the background is 12" and was used to collect the foam dust. Im thinking of using similar duct but black and 6" in diameter to funnel both scoops into the IC.

As they sit now, they are approx 2.5" away from the body. My goal is to make them as large as possible but to not be an eye sore or something that looks out of place.

My goal is to make them adjustable as far as front mouth opening goes and it'd be an easy trim to size desired and install.

Next step after scoops is to make the funnel inside the duct.

[07FIREBLADE]

Are you planning on making them out of fiber glass to paint match or carbon? Is that 2.5" from the back or the front where the scoop indent is very shallow on the body?

[Kurk818]

Are you planning on making them out of fiber glass to paint match or carbon? Is that 2.5" from the back or the front where the scoop indent is very shallow on the body?

2.5" is measured at the widest part of the scoop where the original scoop indent starts on the side panel.

Material is yet to be determined.

[Canadian818]

Looks great Kurt, ground breaking as always! I agree with you on as big as possible without being an eye sore. From the angles your showing us, they could easily go bigger without looking out of place. Trim to fit would allow the wide tire guys to go bigger.

[FFRSpec72]

Beyond the looks, I'm not seeing functional value, as these will disrupt the airflow down the side of the car and have an impact on the rear low pressure area. There is nothing to slowdown the air and increase the pressure and opening up the area around the scoop just defeats the aerodynamics for air flow/cooling. The side scoop is not in a high pressure area, this is in a slow-moving air that clings to the side surface of the car, a scoop needs to be above this area

[C.Plavan]

Beyond the looks, I'm not seeing functional value, as these will disrupt the airflow down the side of the car and have an impact on the rear low pressure. There is nothing to slowdown the air and increase the pressure and opening up the area around the scoop just defeats the aerodynamics for air flow/cooling.

Tony,
With all due respect, once you have a running car or have done testing on your own, you can make a statement like that. I can tell you the stock side vents do not flow enough air at speed. We are thinking with the added door vents on my R, we need something to "catch" more air because of the velocity/turbulence of the air being thrown out of those vents. My air intake was right in that vent, it was not getting enough air, and the air it was getting was hot(combination of flow and amount of air). If there was more forced, directed air coming in, that would not of happened. I had to move my air intake up to the passenger hump area, and run hatchless to get cool air coming into the intake. The same goes for my version 1, oil cooler vent intakes that were also attached to the side vents on the inside. Granted, I have now made an insulated box for my oil cooler, more air will help.

Honestly, who cares about disrupted air down the back 1/4 side of the car if it means better cooling and more forced air in the side vents. That is not even anything I am slightly worry about. No one will even feel that.

If you want to finish your car so I am not the only one out here on the track trying to get everything working in harmony, please get building and finish it up. I think everyone would appreciate "Real World" testing from multiple sources. That is what I am trying to do.

I don't think it is at all productive to criticize Kurk818's work without it even being tested yet. I can tell you definitively that the stock vents were not working for me, on the track.

Bob- Notice my last sentence in the quote. I'm not at all sure about that either.

[FFRSpec72]

Tony,
With all due respect, once you have a running car or have done testing on your own, you can make a statement like that.

My car will be done soon and out on the track so thanks for your concern. There are some things that one can figure out w/o actually having the car on the track, this is one of them. There is also nothing wrong with expressing opinions and experiences here, unless you believe yours are the only ones that counts.

[Frank818]

The side scoop is not in a high pressure area, this is in a slow-moving air that clings to the side surface of the car, a scoop needs to be above this area

Seriously? I thought it was, that's why I asked long for a complete picture with colors of the pressure differences on all the body parts and over the car.

[Kurk818]

Hows this? About 3.5" opening. I think its perfect.

[Santiago]

Hmmm, hard to tell with that along-the-fender view. A side or three-quarter view would help. As it stands, I think I prefer the smaller scoop - more elegant.

And I vote for flush fittings. This isn't some jeep rock-crawler wannabe.

Best,
-j

[Canadian818]

Looks good Kurt, but we really need more angles of each scoop to give a worthwhile opinion.

[Kurk818]

Looks good Kurt, but we really need more angles of each scoop to give a worthwhile opinion.

I dont have the side amgles refined enough to post yet. I'll have something later today

[DMC7492]

The bigger one looks Great! I like the top angle matching the rear fender angle. How does the contour blend back to the original opening? A nice curve or straight? Top View?? Great work!! Don

[Kurk818]

Im almost done with the plug. The top angle will mimic the fender lines. Ill post pics tomorrow

[Canadian818]

Im almost done with the plug. The top angle will mimic the fender lines. Ill post pics tomorrow

Now you're teasing without pics? That's just cruel...

[Kurk818]

The plug has been built. I should have my final scoops built and installed by next Saturday

[07FIREBLADE]

Very nice. I love the lines gives it a very aggressive look to the rear section of this car. At least from a side front view.

[Kurk818]

Very nice. I love the lines gives it a very aggressive look to the rear section of this car. At least from a side front view.

Its been a lot of hard work to make the two sides identical. Im happy with the lines and fitment and they will definitely flow some air

[Canadian818]

Looks great kurk! Planning on making them in carbon?

[DMC7492]

Or vacuum bag with West System Epoxy. The results would be extremely strong for the clumsy people we know and super light.
Here is a quick vid. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPXn038ahD4

[C.Plavan]

Those look good. I can appreciate the work you put in.

I was hoping for a more rounded top part of the vent more like the rear fender form. But hey, we are all experts right? Beggars cant be choosers

Again, nice work.

[tmoretta]

Any thought to developing top scoops to make the intercooler openings on the engine cover larger?

[Kurk818]

Those look good. I can appreciate the work you put in.

I was hoping for a more rounded top part of the vent more like the rear fender form. But hey, we are all experts right? Beggars cant be choosers

Again, nice work.

Im see the scoop lines similiar to the rear flares. Rounded over as part of the rear quarter and then pretty much straight as the flare. Sharp lines tend to not be as sharp on the finished product. Im going to produce a set before making any more design changes.

[Scargo]

I'm with Chad. I like where you're going with this, and can appreciate all the work, but I think it would blend in better with all the other rounded surfaces if the top were rounded. Perhaps even pop-up a bit off the fender.
Looks like 200% of what I have with the full open area on my sails.

[flynntuna]

It looks great, it's very similar to the lotus scoops.


Since your so close to the wheel opening it "almost"makes sense to take it to the wheel well like a Porsche 935.

[Canadian818]

Can we get any tips on the foam you used and techniques?

[Kurk818]

Can we get any tips on the foam you used and techniques?

Extruded rigid foam was used. Glued with 3M Super 78 adhesive or expanding foam spread in between and weighted down over night.

Shaping of foam was done with flap disk on a grinder. Final shaping was done with bondo And high build primer.

[Frank818]

Oh that is great!! I love the top angled portion! Aggressive as hell, powwwaaaaaaaaaaa lolll Great stuff Kurk, keep it building!!

[tebriel]

also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VodfQcrXpxc