818S rear spoiler shape and look

[indiana818]

I think i ordered my s kit with a spoiler but realized that i have not seen one. any pictures of one on a 818S?

[da King]

look in the build threads, Erik has some pic's of one at the end of a real good build write up, lottsa pic's and detail. He has some none factory stuff on his 818, not sure if its a FFR spoiler or not but I like it.

Finn

[Silvertop]

I think i ordered my s kit with a spoiler but realized that i have not seen one. any pictures of one on a 818S?

You can also jump to the Factory Five Main Website. Get into the 818 section, then click on the photo galleries. Then select the wind tunnel tests. There are about a half-dozen pictures of a white 818S with a black lip spoiler there.

[Wayne Presley]

I have the 818S spoiler for my car, it's being painted and will put pics up when it's done.

[flynntuna]

You can also jump to the Factory Five Main Website. Get into the 818 section, then click on the photo galleries. Then select the wind tunnel tests. There are about a half-dozen pictures of a white 818S with a black lip spoiler there.

Here are a few...

[flytosail]

It could be a good place to mount an LED strip of lights for a third brake light.

[Frank818]

It could be a good place to mount an LED strip of lights for a third brake light.

That's my plan.

[07FIREBLADE]

Now if we could only get that trunk cover with cf inserts like on the open house 818

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Now if we could only get that trunk cover with cf inserts like on the open house 818

to make the cf humps. Did they just use a clear gelcoat and the CF for the first layup layer on the humps only?
Bob

[K3LAG]

That's my plan.

Mine too.

[07FIREBLADE]

I think someone said they were cutout and reglassed with the cf humps in place. But don't quote me.

[Wayne Presley]

Fiberglass engine cover, humps cut off with a 1" lip left, full CF humps made in the engine cover mold, CF humps bonded to the cover.

[07FIREBLADE]

That's what I thought they did. That's how I would do it if I had the molds... Could make one at school next year though...

[riptide motorsport]

theres plenty of carbon fiber wrap out there now that looks excellent, you could just wrap them.

[Silvertop]

Fiberglass engine cover, humps cut off with a 1" lip left, full CF humps made in the engine cover mold, CF humps bonded to the cover.

I hate to ask stupid questions, but --- Wouldn't it have been easier to just mask off the rest of the engine cover and then paint the humps black? What's the advantage to replacing the humps with carbon fiber?

[Bob_n_Cincy]

I hate to ask stupid questions, but --- Wouldn't it have been easier to just mask off the rest of the engine cover and then paint the humps black? What's the advantage to replacing the humps with carbon fiber?

Use cf for technical and marketing reason.
Technical: CF is stronger and lighter than fiberglass. It would be the composite of choice if it didn't cost more. All new airplanes and F1 cars are loaded with CF.
Marketing: Using real CF is perceived by the public as high tech. Using CF wrap might be thought of as cheap. Don't get caught giving your wife a cubic-zirconia engagement ring.
Bob

[Wayne Presley]

I can think of a couple of reasons why FFR just did the humps on the open house car. First is carbon fiber is a pain to lay up in big pieces, you have to make sure that first layer gets handled very carefully, tucked in the corners just so, no spots where you moved the weave with your fingers, and there is no gel coat to hide any mistakes. Second is they were showing what the 818S was going to weigh. It was obvious that the two humps in CF didn't save hardly any weight so the weight shown was attainable by the average builder.

[wleehendrick]

Wouldn't it have been easier to just mask off the rest of the engine cover and then paint the humps black?

I'm not planning on painting my 818, but I really like the 'storm trooper' look of white S and will probably paint my humps black. I ordered the CF side skirts and diffuser, but went with the street splitter and spoiler (in fiber glass). I'll probably wrap those in c.f. to keep all the aero pieces similar. Some people have told me to wrap the humps as well. I may, if I decide it isn't too cheesy.

[Silvertop]

I can think of a couple of reasons why FFR just did the humps on the open house car. First is carbon fiber is a pain to lay up in big pieces, you have to make sure that first layer gets handled very carefully, tucked in the corners just so, no spots where you moved the weave with your fingers, and there is no gel coat to hide any mistakes. Second is they were showing what the 818S was going to weigh. It was obvious that the two humps in CF didn't save hardly any weight so the weight shown was attainable by the average builder.

My takeaway on that, then, is that since the weight savings on the humps would be minimal, the real motivation in this particular circumstance was based on marketing concerns connected with the 818 Launch. That, and maybe it just seemed like a cool thing to do. There's really no other significant benefit to CF'ing the humps. That's not a criticism -- good marketing is important (and FFR is very good at that). But if anybody is hankering to imitate the blacked-out humps on their own 818 -- Just paint them -- or wrap them!!

[Mechie3]

motivation ..was based on marketing ....no other significant benefit to CF'ing the humps.

In other words, if it was all marketing, we can reverse the bold part to find our answer.

CF'ing the humps was done for those that like humping the CF.



(I myself like it!)

[wleehendrick]

CF'ing the humps was done for those that like humping the CF.

Like this guy?

A man who claims to have had sex with 1,000 cars has defended his "romantic" feelings towards vehicles.
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[Bob_n_Cincy]

I am a little disappointed in my Carbon Fiber Diffuser.
The top side is a beautiful glossy CF look. Problem is that 95% percent of this is hidden when mounted to the car. Only a strip will show on the back of the car.

I bought the diffuser for functional reasons (to suck down the back of the car at speed)
The bottom side of the diffuser (functional side) is very rough unfinished. To get the best air flow it needs to be smooth. I will have to put a skim coat on it and then paint it.
Bob

[ehansen007]

IS there an aluminum floor board for the back of the car like the front? If not you'll be able to see it from inside the engine compartment. I'm interested to see where it goes. I'll probably just lay down a resin coat on the unfinished side.

[Silvertop]

I'm not planning on painting my 818, but I really like the 'storm trooper' look of white S and will probably paint my humps black. I ordered the CF side skirts and diffuser, but went with the street splitter and spoiler (in fiber glass). I'll probably wrap those in c.f. to keep all the aero pieces similar. Some people have told me to wrap the humps as well. I may, if I decide it isn't too cheesy.

I also ordered the street splitter and the lip spoiler, and they were delivered along with my 818 late last week. You may not need to wrap them. They're already black.

[wleehendrick]

I also ordered the street splitter and the lip spoiler, and they were delivered along with my 818 late last week. You may not need to wrap them. They're already black.

Good to know, thanks!

[mikeb75]

Use cf for technical and marketing reason.
Technical: CF is stronger and lighter than fiberglass. It would be the composite of choice if it didn't cost more. All new airplanes and F1 cars are loaded with CF.
Bob

I was actually wondering (daydreaming) a week ago if the body molds could be used to lay CF instead of fiberglass. I'm sure it would double or triple the cost of the kit, but how cool would it be to have all the body panels in naked CF...

[indiana818]

thanks alot
kerry

[Frank818]

I bought the diffuser for functional reasons (to suck down the back of the car at speed)
The bottom side of the diffuser (functional side) is very rough unfinished. To get the best air flow it needs to be smooth. I will have to put a skim coat on it and then paint it.

By any chance did you advise FFR about that potential inefficiency?

[Bob_n_Cincy]

By any chance did you advise FFR about that potential inefficiency?

I asked someone a couple of months ago if mine was made wrong. They said no, they are all that way. I never took my question any further. I should have asked them if mine were the only ones in that "all" statement.

[Santiago]

Can you shoot some pics of the diffuser you just got Bob? I was on the fence with ordering it, pretty sure I'd do my own, but I'd like to see what they offer.

Best,
-j

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Can you shoot some pics of the diffuser you just got Bob? I was on the fence with ordering it, pretty sure I'd do my own, but I'd like to see what they offer.

Best,
-j

it is put in storage right now. I'll get a picture when I get it out next.