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Thread: 335 30r18 wheel back spacing on gen 3 coupe

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    335 30r18 wheel back spacing on gen 3 coupe

    My coupe should arrive mid December and trying to get some wheel ordered as I know forgestar wheels can take a long time to receive. Looking at the f14 and trying to figure out back spacing to run a 335 30r18 in the rear on 12"wheels and 275 on 10" wheels in the front. I don't want to run a spacer and hoping someone has run this combo. Thanks

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    I have been working on wheel setups for quite some time. Forgestar, Rotiform, Rota, Rays/Volk, etc. The minimum offset on the wide Forgestar Super Deep Concave (SDC) wheels is +6 mm. I am currently thinking 11” front and 12” or 13” rear wheels. Don’t have my body on for measurement yet, just working with the inboard clearances for now. Here is some of the data I have collected over the past year or two.

    FFR Snap-On/Logano Coupe Forgestars:
    Front: F14 DC 18x10+6 (planned for 11” wide but hit deadline for filming)
    Rear: F14 SDC 18x12+6 w/40mm spacer, effectively -34 offset

    FFR Snap-On/Logano Coupe-R Volk ZE40:
    Front: ZE40 18x11+15, Toyo R888 295/30R18
    Rear: ZE40 18x11+15 w/25mm spacer. Toyo R888 335/30R18

    FFR Coupe generic street/track fitment:
    Front: Halibrand 18x11+12. Toyo R888 315/30R18, near limit for front tire size
    Rear: Halibrand 18x11+12 w/20mm spacer, effectively -8 offset. Toyo R888 335/30R18

    Forcefed1 Coupe; forum member:
    Front: F14 DC 18x10+30. Toyo R888
    Rear: F14 SDC 19x12+6. Toyo R888 335/30R19. Without spacer, tire rubs frame under even light loads.

    Surfdog57 Coupe-R street setup; forum member:
    Front: Halibrand 18x9+24. Toyo R888R 275/35R18
    Rear: Halibrand 18x11+12 w/2” (50.8mm) spacer. Toyo R888R 315/30R18

    Surfdog57 Coupe-R track setup; forum member:
    Front: Advan RSDF 18x10+15. Tire size 275
    Rear: Advan RSDF 18x11+15. Without spacer, tire rubs frame
    Logan's Gen 3 Coupe-R Build
    Ordered 4/23/19 | Delivered 6/29/19 | First Start 8/1/20 | First Drive 9/20/20

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    Thank you Logan! I wil let you blaze the trail and figure out what's needed. I am planning on 335's in the rear and I am assuming you are also. I just don't like the idea of spacers, why add another failure point.

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    Between some racing friends and I, we have ordered enough custom wheels by now to have developed a spreadsheet to work with fitment data...lol. Typically, I try to work out the inboard clearance first, to fit as much wheel/tire as possible to the inside. Then see how much room is left to the outside/fender, and fill that too. This is all relative to the wheel-to-hub mounting surface, and involves highly precise measurements on offset/backspacing, the use of spacers, wheel deflection under load moving relative to the chassis and suspension, tire deflection relative to the wheel, shock travel arc location, etc. Using spherical bearings in place of rubber or polyurethane bushings means I can get even tighter tolerances since I don't have to leave excess room for components to flex within their mounts.

    I prefer to press extended wheel studs into the hub, and use slip-on spacers which become clamped between the wheel and hub with the lug nuts, as opposed to a bolt-on spacer which has its own set of lug nuts to bolt to the hub, then a second set of lug nuts and studs in it to bolt the wheel on. No foul experience with that type, but they're another point of failure, as you've said. And many believe not up to the abuse (bending moment from lateral loading) of racing. However, if you need more than 25-30 mm of spacer to get the fitment needed, bolt-on is typically the only option.

    I'm actually trying to get the maximum wheel size possible for a set of racing wheels, like 11" with 315 up front, and 12" with 345 rear. Then I'll get a second set for street use. Something like 10" 275 front and 11" 315 rear.
    Logan's Gen 3 Coupe-R Build
    Ordered 4/23/19 | Delivered 6/29/19 | First Start 8/1/20 | First Drive 9/20/20

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    Logan,
    Blaze the trail and let me know what you come up with. I appreciate it.

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