I hope that Dave's frustration is really in response to the insults from the 3 or 4 individuals that effectively shut down the flow of information for the rest of us, and that he's not mad at the forum as a whole. According to the poll set up to gauge reaction to the body design, more than 75% at least like it and would happily buy it. I'm willing to bet that not many production car manufacturers have had such a positive reaction to a newly introduced model, and many more would LOVE to have a better than 75% favorable response. Dave, Jim and the rest of the FF team should feel good about what they've done, and I ask them please don't shut us out of the 818 development.