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04-23-2020, 10:08 PM
#241
Yes, I love Technology
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04-23-2020, 10:20 PM
#242
Yes, I love Technology
Front aluminum
With the hood work pretty much done, time to finish up the front close off aluminum. I worked these parts over by adding material wherever needed to get a close fit to the hood, etc. Then made some extra parts to help close the gaps and omissions. I started with the cheap spray on underbody stuff (Duplicolor), but already knew it would not bond really well to raw aluminum. Cleaned it off the initial couple panels after a few days and not in the least impressed, and it is messy crap going on and off. Got self etch primer from TCPGlobal and completely sanded, cleaned and primed all. Then got cheap again and just painted it all with Rustoleum. Probably not my first choice since it is gloss, but I had lots of cans of the stuff and it's one of those "good enough, let's go" deals. But at last I can put them all back on with the zillion screws I previously established and move on... hooaaa!
Everything that contacts the hood is setup to use rubber bulb seal too.
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04-23-2020, 10:38 PM
#243
Yes, I love Technology
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04-23-2020, 10:52 PM
#244
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04-23-2020, 11:05 PM
#245
Yes, I love Technology
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04-24-2020, 06:03 AM
#246
Senior Member
I am in awe every time I see your work. Amazing.
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04-24-2020, 07:16 AM
#247
Wow. Very impressive. You keep me inspired to make progress on mine.
My favorite part was that you use lots of tape too! Now I know it is ok. Just went out and taped on my exhaust pipe like Art did
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04-24-2020, 07:44 AM
#248
Yes, I love Technology
Just remember to keep your drive times under 30 seconds. After that the tape cooks off, exhaust falls off.
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04-24-2020, 09:02 AM
#249
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05-09-2020, 10:41 AM
#250
Hi Art,
If you find yourself needing to sandblast tough finishes like powder coat, Menards sells a fairly aggressive black blasting media for $8 per 50lb bag. The SKU is 1891331. It tends to chew right through those finishes in a hurry.
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05-09-2020, 07:51 PM
#251
Yes, I love Technology
Jake - thanks - good info !
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05-10-2020, 10:31 PM
#252
Senior Member
Art-
Loved reading through your thread! Thanks for sharing some great ideas, you have me thinking about a couple of things. Looking forward to seeing your sequential tail lights. Keep up the great 818 build!
Dave
MK3.1 2004 Mach 1 donor. ABS, PS, TC.
GTM #304 LPE 525hp LS3
2000 C5 Lingenfelter LS1@489hp
1999 Corvette FRC/Z06 track car
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05-26-2020, 08:24 AM
#253
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05-26-2020, 08:57 AM
#254
Yes, I love Technology
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05-26-2020, 09:08 AM
#255
Yes, I love Technology
Firewall window can fall out - oh and some carpet
I just had to do a little carpet work to see how it will come out. Pretty happy so far. Easy part done.
Did you know there are times when reading the manual is actually a good idea, after all. But you need to turn the page and read it all. I installed the window in the firewall. Next thing I know I'm moving things around and the glass falls out on the concrete floor.
My mentor from my seat upholstery project stopped in. He used to be a glass guy at a shop. Looked at my seal install and got me in the groove literally. That is why the back lips looked odd to me but I didn't investigate further. Later on I found that the next page in the manual showed closing that locking lip in the rubber seal. Sometimes you just get lucky and the glass doesn't break.
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05-26-2020, 09:29 AM
#256
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05-26-2020, 09:49 AM
#257
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05-26-2020, 10:09 AM
#258
Yes, I love Technology
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05-26-2020, 10:13 AM
#259
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05-26-2020, 10:31 AM
#260
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2 beautiful mufflers, one on each side, super symmetric!! You are a robot!
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
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05-26-2020, 11:08 AM
#261
Senior Member
Always astounding work! Inspiring!
818S/C : Chassis #25 with 06 WRX 2.5 turbo, ABS, cruise, PS, A/C, Apple CarPlay, rear camera, power windows & locks, leather & other complexities. Sold 10/19 with 5,800 miles.
Mk3 Roadster #6228 4.6L, T45, IRS, PS, PB, ABS, Cruise, Koni's, 17" Halibrands, red w/ silver - 9K miles then sold @ Barrett-Jackson Jan 2011 (got back cash spent).
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06-27-2020, 01:47 PM
#262
wow, i can not believe this build!! it is amazing.
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06-30-2020, 08:48 PM
#263
Art, you're inspiring. . .
Inspiring me to sell my half done kit. It'll never be a third as cool as yours.
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07-01-2020, 12:28 PM
#264
Yes, I love Technology
Originally Posted by
Ipassgas
Art, you're inspiring. . .
Inspiring me to sell my half done kit. It'll never be a third as cool as yours. ��
No No No NO. You better be jesting. I see other 818's that make me drool and go for more. No two should be alike and your stamp on yours is as good as anyone's. Level of skill is way less important than level of effort - give it what you got and yours becomes the best.
If it was any other way we would all be driving one model, one style and one boring vehicle, world wide. And God forbid that day comes.
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07-02-2020, 04:36 PM
#265
I'm jesting. It'll get finished. My plan was race car with a license plate anyway, so it needn't be factory perfect.
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07-05-2020, 12:47 PM
#266
Yes, I love Technology
Body painted
With a little help from my friends it is painted and it was all a blast!
Thanks to Jetfuel's arranging booth access, my last month of body paint prep work culminated in shooting it all in a pro booth inside an incredible complex of aircraft hangars at the Eagle Creek Airport in Indy. Grandson who went with me to get the kit years back, and of course Jet, credited for several hours of final sanding prep, helping me keep my suit and air hose from dragging on everything wet during the shoot. Especially Jet helped find and sort out technique, goof and application fixes, keeping the paint coming, cleaning the gun and just plain making the whole thing fun and worth.
Inside a Tyvek suit much of Fri and Sat in 90F+ heat - I should be 10# lighter, which would be good so I can get in and out of this thing when it is finished....
Tips:
Don't reuse a disposible Kups cap or can on your paint gun's reservoir unless scrubby clean, the previous day's residue will soften and blow out onto your work at the worst times.
Oh, and before Jetfuel enjoys tattling on me, bring all your paint with you on the first trip. Wife had to meet us from 120 miles away to pass over the clearcoat catalyst I left at home. Wife says I owe her big... as in new diamond
Crammed in just right you can get the entire 818C on the floor of a 16' Penske truck. They are hurting for business so came down from 99c per mile to final of 25c and a great daily rate. Screw everything down on 2x4's and those to each other for a matrix that stays together on the bumpy roads.
Have better skills or use a pro to do the shoot so you don't have to cut and buff when finished. I had some nice smooth spots but the majority to make me happy will need some after-paint elbow grease this week.
I would do it all again in a heartbeat, Jet - I owe you man!
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07-05-2020, 02:24 PM
#267
Art i've looked at the picture on 3 monitors, and I can't tell if it is grey or white.
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07-05-2020, 02:36 PM
#268
Yes, I love Technology
Championship White - very white. A Honda paint - actually from TCP Global.
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07-05-2020, 05:01 PM
#269
Senior Member
Nothing like the pride of showing off your car and being able to say, yes, I painted it myself!
Great work.
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07-05-2020, 06:12 PM
#270
Senior Member
Jetfuel!!! Him again! I also owe him a big one!
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
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07-05-2020, 08:40 PM
#271
Senior Member
Art, it was our pleasure having you down down here for the weekend.
It was a lot of hard work but it was a heck of a lot of fun for sure.
All I hope for is that riding in my car lit a bit of a fire under your feet to get you to the finish line...
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Checking for imperfections with a sun lamp
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Hard at work
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Learning from grandpa
Jetfuel
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07-06-2020, 07:46 AM
#272
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I've never had the pleasure of painting a car in a real paint booth. I always end up doing it my garage in a rigged up paint room. Being able to space the parts out and have a downdraft system clear the fog as you spray must be great! That plus the great lighting make it a lot easier to get good results.
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07-06-2020, 08:19 AM
#273
Yes, I love Technology
Hobby - all for sure. I tossed up a quick booth in my garage and put the first layer of epoxy primer on so I could find and dress any gross issues. So I had all that "fun" as well. Then the trip to Indy, we 320 grit sanded it since it only had a 24 hour window to coat over and I was well past that. Then we touched pin-holes and funny spots. Next reduced same primer = sealer, and so on. Didn't mind the primer going on in a quick and dirty garage booth since it was subject to sand and fix. I've done 6 cars before in home made booths but man, a full paint system (with oven to boot which we used on the clear) is in another world of goodness. Space was tight - easy to bump something - but we made it. This booth is there to do ailerons and other smaller airplane parts. Sure got lucky the day Jetfuel asked to come up and see my build last summer, he is another great 818'er.
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07-06-2020, 08:34 AM
#274
Yes, I love Technology
How much paint to do my 818C
Your mileage will vary of course. This was TCP Globals "custom shop" paint line.
I rough measured the body to 115 sq ft, but don't hold me to this.
Epoxy primer:
..... 6/10 gallon one full coat
..... 4/10 gallon + 1/10 gallon reducer = "sealer", one full coat with 5 drops paint left (yikes), but I didn't scrimp near end. Did not paint where it can't be seen later on this coat.
White base
..... 8/10 gallon, 2 parts base 1.5 part reducer, 3 coats (book says 1 part reducer but things happen sometimes)
Urethane clear
.... 6/10 gallon, 4 parts clear 1 part activator, 2 coats
Jetfuel suggested I shoot an additional reduced clear to get a final flow-out. I chickened out on that but wish I knew how that would have worked out. I'm now doing 1000, 1500, 2000 wet by hand followed by rubbing, polishing and swirl mark pastes with my old beat up Wen DA polisher/buffer. Working out nicely but will take probably 3 maybe 5 days to wrap it up. Coming out pretty nice so far.
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08-05-2020, 09:04 AM
#275
Yes, I love Technology
Headliner rework
Part of my headliner (the ceiling aluminum panel, visors) was done with the Morbern Hex marine vinyl - same as I put on the seats, door panels and dash. The pillars and such were done with a very cool pattern of thin, unbacked, embossed vinyl that was also a headliner product. During the baking of the paint (about 130F) something between the adhesive (Weldwood landau top and trim adhesive) and that vinyl went south. The Morbern did not have a problem but the thin stuff must have released something into the adhesive which softened it, and the vinyl curled and peeled.
Found this after doing the polish work, whereupon I removed the paint masking and paper covering the headliner and found a mess:
Given that was about 2 days work it was a bummer, but good training on getting headliner in. I did that job in sections because the vinyl was difficult to fit and curve. But now that I had done one I felt brave enough to give it another go in all-one peice.
Local shop had some foam back charcoal cloth, a lot easier to work with than the vinyl. I did the entire roof with one piece from the tip of the pillars to behind the aluminum headliner. Material was $60.00, and I'm glad it failed the first time, this is much better anyway:
With the roof suspended upside down from the ceiling, I could sit on a stool inside the window frames and from each side to comfortably work on the interior.
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08-05-2020, 09:21 AM
#276
Yes, I love Technology
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08-05-2020, 09:38 AM
#277
Yes, I love Technology
Wiring
Two and a half weeks ago. Started putting in the body wiring. At the end of the first day it was like this:
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My process started with making new wiring diagrams for everything throughout. Using all Subaru connectors, adding Deutch connectors for my custom stuff. Harnesses were cut away so I had things cut down to pigtails ranging from a couple inches to a couple feet at each connector. Mount components, plug those connectors in, then run interconnect wires using scraps from the cut out harness wires (to keep color codes) from each pigtail to its mating other end/s. Everything is done with crimp splices covered with internal melt/seal heat shrink. Told the wife this would take a week. She doubles everything I tell her and was about right.
I'm down to installing power antenna, running speaker wires. Everything else has been tested and working, with exception of OBDII diag tool is not seeing the ECU. Expect to sort that today. All my wiring except the antenna runs down the left sail, nothing goes in the center as I wanted free access to pulling the rear firewall, and fuel tank. Antenna will go down the right side to behind the passenger area, keeping it away from the other wires just in case it wants to pick up any electrical noise - especially more likely without a steel body.
Some more pics later this week when it looks "nice"...
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08-05-2020, 02:51 PM
#278
Senior Member
As always: Amazing work.
Art, I really like your sun visors and the other interior trim. Of course, your wing and the finishing of the body panels are outstanding, too.
818S/C : Chassis #25 with 06 WRX 2.5 turbo, ABS, cruise, PS, A/C, Apple CarPlay, rear camera, power windows & locks, leather & other complexities. Sold 10/19 with 5,800 miles.
Mk3 Roadster #6228 4.6L, T45, IRS, PS, PB, ABS, Cruise, Koni's, 17" Halibrands, red w/ silver - 9K miles then sold @ Barrett-Jackson Jan 2011 (got back cash spent).
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08-05-2020, 05:45 PM
#279
Yes, I love Technology
Thanks Pete, you set the pace, I just follow along...
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08-05-2020, 06:02 PM
#280
Hi Art,
I just read through your build thread, and all I can say is you have mad skills and ingenuity. Wish I had these skills, but alas, my talents lye elsewhere.
Paul