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    Color decision.

    Hi all,

    Decision, decision, decision.....
    Hmmmm...Trying figure out what color for my future ride.
    Does someone knows what is the name of the color for the Daytona in the attached pic here?
    Might be the one for me.



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    Looks a whole lot like Guardsman Blue. I haven't done a Coupe in that color but have done several roadsters in the classic Guardsman blue and Wimbledon White combination...here's one:



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    Guardsman Blue: Ford #1622-A; OEM code F, D-F (PPG 12832)

    Wimbledon White: Ford #1619-A; OEM code 9A, M32J1619, M1619A (PPG 8378)

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    Bonjour..
    Choosing a color is a big decision, because your going to have to live with whatever your choice is, or spend some serious coin to change it.

    I found pictures on the internet can be very deceptive. Lighting conditions, clouds in the sky, the camera, lens used, backgrounds, etc., can all influence what the color looks like.
    Blue especially, seem to have considerable variants from one car to the next, even when they are supposedly all the same color. The conditions at the shop under which the car is painted can be a factor, humidity, temperature, thickness of clear coat, etc. Even the paint manufacture, and their particular paint formula, all play a roll.

    My advice...Pick out one forum members car, that you really, really, like the color of. Go to that members photo gallery, or search for more posts with pictures of his car. (Check the FFCars group too) Try messaging him, and politely asking to have him send you pictures of it. If he knows, ask what paint was used, IE Dupont, Sikkens, etc,

    In choosing my cars final color, (once I had narrowed it down), involved looking at as many pictures of the exact same car as I could find. Background, and foregrounds varied, as foregrounds can be reflected on to a car, and influence color shades. I saw pictures of it taken weeks, months, and even years apart, so I got to see it under several different lighting conditions. Also the camera angles varied, so shade, and the influence of the camera, lens, etc, was less of a factor.
    This really helped, vs looking at multiple cars, from all around the world, all supposedly the same color, even when they don't look the same color..

    Good luck!
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    My painter sent me to the paint store to buy paint (without adult supervision). We had planned on a bright red metallic that stood out. Started looking trough the color catalogs focusing on reds and somehow opened the page to this striking metallic blue. You guessed it, came back to my buddy the painter with blue. We all had a good laugh and I now have a blue car, not the red hot rod we had all envisioned.

    Forget planning as if you spend a couple hours at the paint store looking at paint chips you never can tell what color you may end up with.
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    Looks like princess blue.
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    Looks a lot like Pontiac's Lucerne blue to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster View Post
    Looks like princess blue.
    Princess or Viking blue is lighter than the picture above.

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    I completely agree, camera lenses distort color. If we narrow it down to Guardsman blue, Viking blue, or Princess Blue as many have suggested. Go to the paint store and find those colors. Narrowing down the million colors might help. If you’re like me and don’t want to go into the store right now (I’ve opted to stay out of indoor spaces at the moment) have them bring you the books and meet you outside, you’ll want to see them in the sun.

    When I was taking pictures of my roll bar wrapped in leather it kept turning out much lighter than it is in real life and it was making me crazy until I decided to color correct one of the photos but that does get it exact it gets it close and everything else around it turned out really dark.

    Also I picked an unusual color for my car that came from nail polish and rather than posting the spray out I posted the manufacturers photo of someone’s hand with the nail polish on because it was the most accurate of the actual color.
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    Princess and Viking blue I believe are the same colours. The former is the name from over the pond and not “manly” enough supposedly so was changed to Viking in the US. The pic of the coupe in this thread is a much darker blue. I know there is a coupe at FF in light blue which may be the Sherwood Williams colour of Vintage Race Blue or could be Viking. All I know is that it’s the best liking coupe I have seen.
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    Up to now in this discussion I am leaning toward Viking blue but still interested in receiving all your comments and suggestions.
    Keep’em coming!

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    Kinda partial to Viking blue myself....

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    Brittany blue is another shade of blue worth looking at. This Shelby Continuation Cobra was done that color.

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    Supposedly this Daytona is also in Brittany Blue..


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    Rebooting this thread....does anyone know the color code of this FFR Type 65 demo #001?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt.collinsjr View Post
    Rebooting this thread....does anyone know the color code of this FFR Type 65 demo #001?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Bill View Post

    My advice...Pick out one forum members car, that you really, really, like the color of. Go to that members photo gallery, or search for more posts with pictures of his car. (Check the FFCars group too) Try messaging him, and politely asking to have him send you pictures of it. If he knows, ask what paint was used, IE Dupont, Sikkens, etc,

    To add to this excellent advice, see the work the painter has done previously. I've seen two cars done by two different painters who (supposedly) used the same paint but the result was different shades. In real life, so not the issue of pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zee View Post
    To add to this excellent advice, see the work the painter has done previously. I've seen two cars done by two different painters who (supposedly) used the same paint but the result was different shades. In real life, so not the issue of pictures.
    Zee,
    There's more to it...

    Many of today's color formulas are quite transparent. The manufacturer specifies specific undercoat shades that are required to achieve color accuracy and coverage. The PPG products that I use have a gray scale for the undercoat that ranges from 1 (virtually white) to 7 (virtually black). The same color applied over different undercoats can appear significantly different. Here's an example showing some spray outs of Mercedes 977 that I did for a customer; the top is over G1, the middle over G3 and the bottom over G7. These were all sprayed at the same time, using the same gun, with paint from the same batch.



    Look like different colors don't they? As a finished product they are, but yet they were all done with the same paint. In your scenario the painters may indeed have used the same paint however one may have applied it over the manufacturer's recommended undercoat shade and the other may have not.

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    Good advise all....

    FFR got back to me on this, the color is Lexus Indigo Ink, code 8P4.
    The picture is accurate in color as I looked at this car at their shop last spring...

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    I went with a Brittany Blue, Ford Paint code Q, 1624. This first came out on the '64 Thunderbird, and later on the '67 Mustang. There are actually 4 different Ford Brittany Blues, the first dating back to the 30's if I recall. It was more of a forest green than a blue ... The latest Brittany blue on Mustang Cobras is very different. There was a subtle shift in hue in '67-70

    Digging in to this 18 months ago, I came to the conclusion that Brittany Blue and Viking Blue are one and the same. That said, the single stage paint of the 60's is not the paint of today, so the appearance is very different, and today's paint ages better.

    Note the Britons were Viking stock ... :-)

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    Love Viking Blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by LateApex View Post
    ...Digging in to this 18 months ago, I came to the conclusion that Brittany Blue and Viking Blue are one and the same...
    Actually no. Viking is PPG 12494 and Brittany is PPG 12843. Viking is a bit more silver than Brittany.

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    FWIW, I understand that Viking blue (North America) and Princess blue (U.K.) are supposedly the same.
    just my 2 cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpNorth View Post
    FWIW, I understand that Viking blue (North America) and Princess blue (U.K.) are supposedly the same.
    just my 2 cents...
    I've heard that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpNorth View Post
    FWIW, I understand that Viking blue (North America) and Princess blue (U.K.) are supposedly the same.
    just my 2 cents...
    That is what I have heard and read as well. The story is supposedly “Princess” was not manly enough, not sure for whom and whether it was Shelby himself or someone else. Thus “Viking” was born.
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