So my car weighs abt the same as Bob's, but I have no dry sump or add on bumpers. Starting to wonder if the scales I was weighed on were wrong lol. I don't get why my car is so pudgy!
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So my car weighs abt the same as Bob's, but I have no dry sump or add on bumpers. Starting to wonder if the scales I was weighed on were wrong lol. I don't get why my car is so pudgy!
Bump. We must have some more 818s +r ready for spring track time!
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
No completed "C"s yet ? guessing 2200 based in completed "S" models shown.
Tony Nadalin
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
818R Build in progress
Have you weighed since you added 50lbs of wrap? You may not have the prize anymore!
"Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement"
Owner: Colonel Red Racing
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Tony Nadalin
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
818R Build in progress
So I was working on my challenge car over the weekend, making sure it is ready for the season and was doing the alignment and cross balance and looks like the challenge car is about 500 lbs more than the 818R, so I'm about 100lb over the minimum of 2400 for the challenge car
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Tony Nadalin
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
818R Build in progress
I'm now at 1,796 after a winter diet (Flywheel, fans, winder-shield washer, different wheels+tires, misc trans and engine brackets.) Probably still a few pounds left in replacing the seats and battery.
FFR's 818R with oils, fluids and no gas 1956 lbs, exactly 60/40 weight R/R distribution. R/L distribution is 50.2/49.8 with me in it.
Wayne Presley www.verycoolparts.com
Xterminator 705 RWHP supercharged 4.6 DOHC with twin turbos
We have a new winner!
And an S too!
I'll edit your listing, post up your new corner weights if you get a chance too.
If you have a standard battery you can lose 20lbs with a LI-Ion battery. I've learned a great deal about them the last few months.... if you decide to go that route be very careful. I'm a dealer for EarthX batteries now. They are primarily in the aircraft market but are making a push for the automotive racing market.
Last edited by Sgt.Gator; 04-12-2017 at 10:07 AM.
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Didn't realize the batteries had gotten that light. I'll definitely have to give it more consideration now seeing as my donor battery is at least ten years old anyway. Do you still need a special trickle charger for the li-ion?
Seats should be in within a few weeks so I'll do a full update then.
, yes lithium batteries do require a special charger
Wayne Presley www.verycoolparts.com
Xterminator 705 RWHP supercharged 4.6 DOHC with twin turbos
In danger of threadjacking my own thread, but:
It depends!
From EarthX on their batteries:
In the event you have to charge the battery, use a Lithium (LiFePO4) battery charger or a lead-acid battery charger that does not charge above 14.6V, will automatically turns off when the battery is fully charged (based on volts) and does not have a de-sulfate mode. Do not use any charger with voltage that pulses above 15V! This will damage the battery. If in doubt, consult the manual that comes with your charger.
For chargers with a maintenance mode, the maintenance mode voltage should be 13.3V – 13.9V. For example, the Battery Tender JR has a maintenance mode voltage of 13.3V which is compatible, whereas the original Battery Tender or Battery Tender Plus has a maintenance mode voltage of 13.2V which is too low for a lithium battery. Please read the manual that comes with your charger.
There's more at this link including a list of chargers that will , and those that will not, work:
http://earthxbatteries.com/our-batte...ttery-charging
The Tenergy LiFePO4 Battery Pack Charger is on the list and is also recommended by InduraPower who I met at the PRI show.
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Alright - full report from the summer tweaks.
[tr]
[td]Phil1734[/td]
[td]818S[/td]
[td] (lbs)[/td]
[td]1793 (lbs)[/td]
[td]372[/td]
[td]395[/td]
[td]526[/td]
[td]500[/td]
[td]2.5NA, Gen2 nose, Post #95 for full specs[/td]
[/tr]
Full specs: 2003 TS Wagon donor. 13lb flywheel. Everything from kit installed except carpet and parking brake boot. Mostly vinyl wrapped interior. Wiper kit. iWire harness. Rocker extensions and big fiberglass hooptie wing/third brake light mount. FFR wheels. Kirkey intermediate road race seats. Momo Quark steering wheel. Not a single fan on it, including the radiator. Just some crafty ducting. Still have a lead-acid boat anchor up front to start the thing. No radio or anything that could be accidentally construed as a "luxury."
Because of the variations in full tanks that are used, I topped off and subtracted 78lbs (12 gallons) worth of fuel according to my weight distribution. Not an industry standard, but it allows better comparison to other builds and everybody is reporting with a random fuel load anyway. So technically curb weight is 1,871, but that doesn't sound as nice.
P.S. Anyone over 2400lbs (coupes) on a stock WRX engine have a worse hp/lb ratio than my car.
Last edited by phil1734; 08-17-2017 at 05:46 AM.
Thanks Phil. I edited the table with your new info. Great to see an NA Build coming in nice and light!
Although Tony is still the leader because his weight includes 7 gals of fuel.
Last edited by Sgt.Gator; 08-17-2017 at 12:45 AM.
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
For sure.
I might get him if I switch to Li-ion and finish trimming the body. I swear FFR mixes depleted uranium dust into their fiberglass resin.
If you go Li-ion: I'm a EarthX dealer and can get you one at a good price. PM me. They have features you won't find in the cheap ones, their major market is aircraft where failure is not an option!
http://earthxbatteries.com/product-c...rs-automobiles
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Added Touchstone's numbers from his build thread.
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
2310lbs
With a VR6 Turbo, Porsche G50 and AWIC (without my 3gal water tank).
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
I added Brando's 818R. This is the weight with a dry sump, the car today no longer has the dry sump.
Also edited the table with Hindsight's new numbers.
Last edited by Sgt.Gator; 09-21-2017 at 02:09 PM.
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Updated with Wayne's build for Jonathan Preston. An 818C with flared fenders. The pics are in the Facebook 818 group, it looks awesome:
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Great looking build!!!
Added the Sgt. Gator Halo Cage Go Kart weight to the Table.
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Just put my 818R on the scales and it came in at 1,970 lbs wet with ~5 gallons of gas. build thread located here.
MK3.1 Roadster completed 2011
818R built with EZ36R H6 completed 2018
818R rebuild with a JDM Honda K24A
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
I reset the ride height after it settled a bit on the HB Cruise in drive. Borrowed a set of scales today and I was closer than I hoped it would be. No fender liners yet, but full tank of gas.
2043 total, 426 FL, 448 FR, 589 RL, 580 RR
-Steve
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818R ICSCC SPM
Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Updated the table with my ready race weight.
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Gator: Came out nicely with the Halo Mod. Is it what you expected?
Initially I figured this would be about the weight. Then when the halo was done and we weighed it in Go Kart mode I thought the final weight would be 90 lbs lighter. I didn't factor in enough weight for coolant, fuel, oil, the duct work, and the DS pump - tank.
Interestingly it only added 15 lbs mre than when Brando had it with a dry sump. I attribute that to my swapping the PC680 battery for a EarthX Lithium Ion, and removing the passenger seat.
If anyone wants more info on EarthX batteries i'll be happy to help ou, I'm an authorized dealer. The one in my 8818R weighs 5lbs and has way more crank power than a PC 680 style battery. I'll post a vendor page in the Electrical section.
Last edited by Sgt.Gator; 08-14-2018 at 10:33 AM.
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
I just weighed mine an 818S at 1940.
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
Anyone have an update?
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Palatov DP4 - ICSCC Sports Racer
I have my new wheels coming in soon so lets say by the end of January I project I should have some dry weights I could post.
Name: biknman aka Dave
818R
Weight no driver: 1455lbs
Left Front: 242lbs
Right Front: 284lbs
Left Rear: 429lbs
Right Rear:500lbs
Notes: no body, dry no fluids, no intake manifold.
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Last edited by biknman; 03-22-2020 at 04:03 PM. Reason: Weight added
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2020 Ram 2500HD, 19 Forester Touring DD, 96 GM coupe for SCCA SM
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990 kg / 2,183 lbs
Scale had a 70kg variance, wasn't 0'd out.
Stock seats, no interior, full tank of fuel.
There is about 50lbs extra in steel due to bumper construction to pass inspection.
OMG, this is the coolest thread ever! C'mon people, how about 1,000 thanks to Gator for making it happen!