Dmac800 father/son build

[Dmac800]

My 17 year old son and I will be building the Type '65. We are excited to do this project together and can't wait for it to get here.

I ordered the kit on 7/8/24 with a completion date of 10/05/24. Then we have to wait for Stewart transport to get it to Puyallup, WA. so maybe we will have it by the end of October or early November.

The build:
Complete Kit
Gen3 Coyote
T56 Trans
IRS
Heat and AC
power steering
Front and rear sway bars
Carpet
18" Halibrands

removed seats, side pipes, and exhaust

Thinking of adding door sills and indoor cover

Don

[460.465USMC]

Congrats, Don! You are in for a lot of fun. So glad you were able to start the project while your son is still home. Thanks for starting a build thread. Looking forward to it. Subscribed.

[Jphoenix]

Hey Don, ours will be here in about 3 weeks, so you’re welcome to come up the hill and check it out!

[Dmac800]

I have received my Gen3 Coyote and the control pack. In the control pack there are two sensors in a bag that look like they are the EGT sensors. They look used. Is this normal? I hope the picture posts.


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[Dmac800]

Thanks JohnK for the response on the O2 sensors.

[Dmac800]

I am going to put Por15 on the Diff, and was wondering how everyone applies it. Do you use the spray cans, paint brush, or HVLP paint gun?

[gbranham]

I've always used a paint brush. The only thing that gets it off of skin is time, so glove up well!!

Greg

[460.465USMC]

Hi Don. I also have only used a brush. I liked the application best with a foam brush. I think you'll really like the results.

[Dmac800]

My kit should be close to being finished by FFR and I was wondering if they automatically will send me pictures or if I have to ask for them? My kit was to be completed on 10/5/24 but Stewart Transport asked to have it moved up so that they can put it on the same truck that they already have going to Washington tomorrow.

[460.465USMC]

I've had to call them on both builds to get a "nursery" picture. They've always been happy to accommodate me, and I have no doubt they will do the same for you, if you reach out.

[Dmac800]

I will call tomorrow morning and see if it is not to late. Hopefully they were able to accommodate Stewart Transport and got my coupe done early. Stewart has my ETA of 10/13/24.

[460.465USMC]

Wahoo! Getting close now. Christmas in October!

[Dmac800]

I just got off the phone with FFR and they said that my kit will be loaded on the truck today!!!!!!! Can't wait to start building with my son.

[PNWTim]

You're about 2 1/2 months ahead of me. Good luck on your build kick off!

[JimStone]

I asked for but never got the "nursery" picture.

So this was my first glimpse of the car, which made it even more exciting

[Dmac800]

I am debating on upgrading my shocks to QA1 DD401's because I hope to do track days and the Silver State Classic some day. Where is a good place to get them from?

[Dmac800]

I am working on our Coyote and was wondering if anyone knows what the torque spec is for the oil filter nipple? I removed the oil cooler and want to get the filter put back on the engine. I don't want to over tighten it and cause any damage. I also dropped the oil filter and it has a small dent in the side. Should I replace it?

[Dmac800]

Our coupe was delivered yesterday afternoon!!!! Now we get to start the inventory process.

[Jphoenix]

I am debating on upgrading my shocks to QA1 DD401's because I hope to do track days and the Silver State Classic some day. Where is a good place to get them from?

I bought mine from Summit.

[Dmac800]

I bought mine from Summit.

When you get them from Summit, do they come with the springs? What spring rate?

[Dmac800]

20241013_131403.jpg20241013_131704.jpg Here are a couple of pictures of the Coupe set up in my garage.

[Jphoenix]

When you get them from Summit, do they come with the springs? What spring rate?

No springs, just the shocks. For now I'm using the springs that came from FFR - 750/500 I think? I'll replace them with 900/700 springs ( or thereabouts) for racing.


The DD401 shocks come with different ID bushings, you can remove the bushings from the FFR shocks and use them in the QA1 shocks by removing the circlip, saves having to fabricate new bushings for the QA1's.

[Dmac800]

Thanks

[slarson]

I am debating on upgrading my shocks to QA1 DD401's because I hope to do track days and the Silver State Classic some day. Where is a good place to get them from?

I got mine from Gordon Levy. He spent at least 30 minutes on the phone asking what my plans were for the car so he could determine the proper spring rates for my application.

Congrats on the delivery, now the fun really begins. Enjoy the build with your son, these times are precious! I bought my kit with the same intention but my son moved to Colorado before mine was delivered. He's coming home this weekend for a few weeks and the plan is to achieve the engine first start.

[PNWTim]

Congratulations on having it in house! I am still two months away so living vicariously through the various build threads in the forum, including yours. Enjoy!

[Dmac800]

I want to put a Tire pressure system in my 18" Halibrands. I purchased the Schrader 33700 Clamp-in Programmable EZ-Sensor's but they won't work. Has anyone found a sensor that will work?

[460.465USMC]

Hi Don. Hope you're having a good time with your son on the build so far.

Not long ago another forum builder, Rsnake, posted a video about his TPMS Schrader system: https://youtu.be/_sSwKCSQiiQ?si=XDJ8FrnEO4edmBnp. Hope this helps.

[Dmac800]

Hi Don. Hope you're having a good time with your son on the build so far.

Not long ago another forum builder, Rsnake, posted a video about his TPMS Schrader system: https://youtu.be/_sSwKCSQiiQ?si=XDJ8FrnEO4edmBnp. Hope this helps.

Hi Chris. We have been busy with getting the inventory done and finally finished it Saturday night.

I have watched all of Rsnake's videos and purchased those Schrader sensors and unfortunately, they don't work with the Halibrands.

[Dmac800]

When we were going through all of the inventory, in Box 1 there is a box of bolts. Is there a list of what should be in this box? I can't find one.

If the manual calls for a grade 8 bolt, should the locknut be a grade 8 as well?

Thanks,
Don

[AndrewIdaho]

I believe that is the fastener pack. Content details are in Appendix G at the end of the manual. Make sure you have the most current manual as when I did inventory, I found some missing bolts that were removed in the latest release of the manual. I am using rev 5K that tech support sent me when I asked questions about the missing bolts.

Best Regards, Andrew

[Jphoenix]

When we were going through all of the inventory, in Box 1 there is a box of bolts. Is there a list of what should be in this box? I can't find one.

If the manual calls for a grade 8 bolt, should the locknut be a grade 8 as well?

Thanks,
Don

My Coupe manual is rev. 4W, not sure if there is a later revision. The manual states in various parts to "use the bolt and nut XXX, from the fastener pack" - so usually those bolts and nuts are in that bag of bolts in Box 1. I laid out all the fasteners by size and type and put them in plastic hardware boxes so I could easily find the type and size bolt required. Normally, a grade 8 bolt will require a grade 8 nut, that's what I've always done in the past.

[PNWTim]

My Coupe manual is rev. 4W, not sure if there is a later revision. The manual states in various parts to "use the bolt and nut XXX, from the fastener pack" - so usually those bolts and nuts are in that bag of bolts in Box 1. I laid out all the fasteners by size and type and put them in plastic hardware boxes so I could easily find the type and size bolt required. Normally, a grade 8 bolt will require a grade 8 nut, that's what I've always done in the past.

That's interesting. I ordered my coupe about a month ago and received the digital manual with other material and mine is 4Q so that doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't receive my kit for another 3 or 4 weeks so it will be interesting to see which version I receive with it. I think I will reach out to them and see what the latest version actually is.

[AndrewIdaho]

I believe that is the fastener pack. Content details are in Appendix G at the end of the manual. Make sure you have the most current manual as when I did inventory, I found some missing bolts that were removed in the latest release of the manual. I am using rev 5K that tech support sent me when I asked questions about the missing bolts.

Best Regards, Andrew

Oops my bad for not reading the thread closely enough early in the morning. The info I gave was for a roadster and not a coupe. Apologies for any confusion - Andrew

[Jphoenix]

From my digital manual: REVISION 4W, AUGUST 2023

I'm going to look at the hardcopy I received, see if it's a later or earlier rev.

[Dmac800]

Thanks everyone. My printed manual is 4W but the digital manual that I downloaded was an earlier version. The reason that I was asking is because the first part that I put on was the power steering rack and I found the 1/2" Grade 8 bolts in the fastener pack, but there are no Grade 8 lock nuts. Where the bolts and nuts for the steering rack in the box with the rack, or in the fastener pack?

One trick that I figured out is that when you put in the new bushings, just do one side and then put in the sleeves. This makes it easier to line up the bushing on the other side.

[Dmac800]

I need a recommendation for what type of grease to use in my build for the IFS and IRS. I would like to grease them before I put them on the car.

[Dmac800]

I purchased the QA1 DD401's and noticed that they are about 1 inch shorter than the Koni's that came with the kit. Is this okay or should they be the same length?

[Jphoenix]

Same here, I believe they are OK because when the chassis is settled at normal ride height, the shocks are close to the middle of their working range. I would be more concerned if they ended up at the extreme either end of the range - more compressed than normal or excessively extended at normal ride height.

[Jphoenix]

I need a recommendation for what type of grease to use in my build for the IFS and IRS. I would like to grease them before I put them on the car.

I use Redline grease, but only because I have a lot of it on hand and I use it on every other vehicle I own, including a ton of it on my Snow cat and even more on my Wanderlodge that has an automatic chassis greaser: https://www.graco.com/us/en/vehicle-...e-systems.html

[Jphoenix]

Thanks everyone. My printed manual is 4W but the digital manual that I downloaded was an earlier version. The reason that I was asking is because the first part that I put on was the power steering rack and I found the 1/2" Grade 8 bolts in the fastener pack, but there are no Grade 8 lock nuts. Where the bolts and nuts for the steering rack in the box with the rack, or in the fastener pack?

One trick that I figured out is that when you put in the new bushings, just do one side and then put in the sleeves. This makes it easier to line up the bushing on the other side.

I used the nuts that came with the rack, not sure if they are grade 8 or not, but I can't tell you how much I've spent at Mclendon's on grade 8 nuts and bolts - I prefer using them over some of the bolts and nuts that come with the kit. I especially don't like all the stainless Allen drive screws, I just replace them with bolts unless they absolutely have to be round head because of clearance issues, etc. Don't like stainless very much, but they are pretty.