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    Al Pacino's Cobra Build

    Hello all, as of now my kit is scheduled for p/u by ST and has a delivery ETA of May 15, so I will start my build thread. First, I would like to thank Edwardb, Al C,Chris Tennant, Jose from illegal garage, along with the guys at FFR and the forum for putting up with my questions and me. As, of February, I have been reading the forums like a mad man, getting ideas and tech details. I will keep this short and as of now just list my kit along with upcoming breeze and RT parts I want to get. So, here goes,

    MKIV Complete Kit:
    Powder Coated Chassis
    Coyote Full Length headers
    Coyote engine mounts
    Body cut outs
    Vinyl Seats
    Coyote Power Steering W/Complete Kit
    Standard with lower control arms
    2015 IRS Complete Kit
    FFR GPS Guage Set
    SS side exhaust upgrade
    Roadster Wiper kit
    Brake duct wire mesh
    PS roll bar
    Grommet set
    Assembled side louver set
    Gen 3 coyote install kit
    2018 IRS 3.55 center section and spindle
    Front and rear Wilwood Brakes
    Polished Over Rider
    18" Halibrand Wheels.


    Future Upgrades from Breeze:
    upper and lower radiator mounts
    fan shroud
    seat install kit (I'm short)
    Steering rack mount kit
    front battery mount

    insulation ill either go with Koolmat or Eastwood insulation liner, Color changes on a weekly basis, but there is plenty of time for that.

    Engine I plan to go with Mike Forte for the Gen 3 and TKO trans.

    Well that is all I have for today until I get delivery!

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    Sounds like a nice build. I am still trying to picture “Al Pacino’s” roadster and what colour combo it will be. Any thoughts?
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    every photo I see of Al Pacino is wearing black
    https://www.google.com/search?q=al+p...A_enUS821US821

    congrats on the build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDubU View Post
    Sounds like a nice build. I am still trying to picture “Al Pacino’s” roadster and what colour combo it will be. Any thoughts?
    You remember the yellow 1964 Cadillac with tiger skin interior from Scarface?

    Welcome to the forum. Looking forward o following along.

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    No, the color changes all the time, as of now looking at a gunmetal gray with red stripes, white with black stripes,

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    I’m betting the color will be what was on your mind first. Mike is a good choice for engine and transmission, he’ll treat you right.
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    Well kit was delivered today. 13056629-E559-4928-8E36-912DCF4B1CEF.jpeg
    Inventory was completed. Took 6 plus hours straight
    How do I get it to post correctly and not upside down?
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    Congratulations!!! I am about a month into my build... having a blast so far. Definitely will be following your journey.

    For pics you need to re-size them smaller (1280x720 seems like a good size), if they are too large they flip all over the place.
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    Say hello to my little friend! Body buck lift.jpg.
    As, of now, I completed the inventory after 6 plus hours after the kit was delivered. Day 2, consisted of minimizing boxes or putting them into storage for later use, along with building the body buck lift (thanks to Al_C for the buck and casters). Now that the body is off, next step is drilling, fitting and labeling the panels to send off to powder coat.

    There are still some crucial parts on the POL suspension lift, so the PC could be done prior. Also, as you can see in the picture the Del sheet has CO, which the body guy must have gone to lunch after he cut the PS roll bar holes, cause those are the only ones cut. LOL. No, biggie just have to measure more and cut once.
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    Progress! So, it be a roller by next weekend?
    Mk IV Roadster - #8650 - delivered 7-17-2015 - first start 7-28-2018 - first go-kart 10-13-2018 - licensed and on the road 9-9-19: body/paint completed 3-17-2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_C View Post
    ...So, it be a roller by next weekend?
    Sure, if Ron Everett was doing it! Actually if Ron was doing it there would be go-carting next weekend

    Jeff

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    but that would too soon, it will take the fun and frustration out of my build!

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    Current update. Cockpit panels an trunk drilled an fitted. Next is footboxes an floor boards and the RT drop trunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    Current update. Cockpit panels an trunk drilled an fitted. Next is footboxes an floor boards and the RT drop trunk.
    544180DF-CAC8-4903-85EF-E8620FE86DDD.jpegE3BCAC5B-C7C6-41D2-9ECB-8914E4107D6A.jpeg
    I just did my cockpit yesterday as well, I think I went through four battery swaps on my Porter Cable cordless drill.... talk about a lot of drilling.

    I noticed on your inside corner panels you have phillip screw heads are you going to rive nut that panel on?
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    FMAN, I too went recharging the batteries twice. I still have to do the footboxes and floor pans (most are panel to panel). The rear inside tunnel panels have the self tapping screws cause it was easier to use rather than drill a hole and Cleco and repeat. The screws just help holding it together.

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    This week I installed the transmission A Frame.Changed the front mount bolts to SS. Installed the Breeze Front Battery Box.014A0C3C-5D5D-41C6-89FF-EC8620C394CA_1_201_a.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    No, the color changes all the time, as of now looking at a gunmetal gray with red stripes, white with black stripes,
    These are great color choices. I think gunmetal grey is classic and clean, especially attractive with red accents. It reminds me a bit of the 2019 LCS raffle car.

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    are you doing panels first? I'm waiting as long as possible to get my brake lines run prior to to installing the floor panels, may not be easier, but saving time with accessibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by toadster View Post
    are you doing panels first? I'm waiting as long as possible to get my brake lines run prior to to installing the floor panels, may not be easier, but saving time with accessibility
    I think Al is doing all of his drilling, fitting and modifying of his panels early on so that he can send them out for coating while he works on suspension, brakes, etc.---which is smart!

    Jeff

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    Yep. That is what I am doing. Sending the panels out for PC tomorrow. Working on PS rack. Diff and axels. Rear spindles. Por 15 the diff, spindles and hubs.
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    Latest color is white with bronze stripe to match the wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    Yep. That is what I am doing. Sending the panels out for PC tomorrow. Working on PS rack. Diff and axels. Rear spindles. Por 15 the diff, spindles and hubs.
    ah - makes sense! looks great! I'm sure drilling all those holes is a pain in the wrist! getting there soon!

    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    Latest color is white with bronze stripe to match the wheels
    what wheels are you using? did you get the 25th anniversary sunburst wheels?
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    Current update, most of the suspension is completed, panels are powder coated, tank is in with the Kleiner mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    No, the color changes all the time, as of now looking at a gunmetal gray with red stripes, white with black stripes,
    Got me thinking dark grey blackout w/black stripes with red pin striping on the outer border.
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    Got a chance to see Tony's build today! Sten was there, too! Tony's making great progress. Of course, he was working while Sten and I were talking and bothering him. Or at least I was. We offered various thoughts, and Tony was polite enough to look like he appreciated them...

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    AL C, Actually I did appreciate them, thanks for sharing them. Sten was going to assist but I didn't receive my bleeder from Amazon, so brake bleeding went out the window.

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    Current progress/update

    Currently, I have the brakes bled, Which I will have to do over since the pedal feels spongy, the trunk is buttoned up along with the rear wiring. I will be in process of the installing the cockpit Koolmat. While I am waiting on the motor from Mike Forte.
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    771DB619-5EE8-44F6-A4A3-F25249C90FAE_1_201_a.jpg

    This is the electrical plan to the coyote, does this look correct?

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    So, I assume you intend for the mega fuse and PDB to be powered continuously. I used my cutoff switch as a true disconnect and it appears to work just fine and it has the added benefit of truly shutting of all power. It's nice when you are working on something and realize that your tool is getting a little too close to power circuits - just reach over and turn the key and everything electrical is off. Just a suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
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    This is the electrical plan to the coyote, does this look correct?
    almost. the cable coming off of the input side that you have going to the 250 A fuse: there are two connections there - the front of the PDDB and to the C500 cable that goes to the PCM.

    Bus connection looks good, I just don't recall (i.e. can't find specific notes on this point) if you run a line to the ignition switch from here. don't forget - there is a lot of interaction between the PCM (the c160a pigtail) and the ignition switch. I'll keep looking for you.
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    Your diagram is OK for power. Leaves the Coyote powered all the time, which is what the Ford instructions recommend. Turning the key off will kill anything attached to the Ron Francis harness, and would also stop the engine if it's running. Al_C is correct. There is another power wire in the Coyote harness that goes to the front of the PDB in addition to the +12V battery connection. But it's not labelled C500 in the Gen 3 instructions, and also doesn't include a connector and ground like the Gen 2. It's showing in the Ford Gen 3 instructions as already attached to the lug on the front of the PDB.

    I do think you have a little confusion about the blue start sense wire though. That's from the Coyote pigtail and goes to the ignition switch. Not the starter itself. The Coyote system is expecting +12V on that wire when the key is turned to start. The only wires to the starter are the +12V from the battery (which you have) and the starter wire from the Coyote harness. Item H in the Ford harness instructions. It's clearly marked.
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    As the start sense wire. I plan to wire it to a momemtart switch per the Ford instructions vice the switch itself. So when I turn on ignition to run, I can push to start button to send 12v to the coyote harness. If that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    As the start sense wire. I plan to wire it to a momemtart switch per the Ford instructions vice the switch itself. So when I turn on ignition to run, I can push to start button to send 12v to the coyote harness. If that makes sense.
    Makes sense. Just confusing that you showed that wire by the starter when it actually doesn't get close to it. One caution. Ignition switches are designed to cut off the ACC feed when in the start position. So that maximum current is available to spin the starter. For the Ron Francis harness, that means gauges, radio, heater and wipers are cut off. Likely not an issue and especially if powered off (if possible) while cranking. Just something to be aware of it you weren't.
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    Progress update, currently posting more not the FB page.
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    Haven't posted in a while on here only the FB page. So here goes. its in go cart stage, took it on its 1st trip ran ok no squeaks.6270B005-3B68-47CC-A9DD-D780732A89EA.jpgD4674C8C-CA03-424F-BB72-4A299FF8546A.jpeg
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    Attachment 142975Attachment 142976 ill figure out hot to convert the iPhone pictures to JPEG at a later date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiriza84641 View Post
    Attachment 142975Attachment 142976 ill figure out hot to convert the iPhone pictures to JPEG at a later date.
    Hi Jiriza84641. I'm getting this error message when I click the above links:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 460.465USMC View Post
    Hi Jiriza84641. I'm getting this error message when I click the above links:

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    Seems like the attachment for the picture didn't work.

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