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Intro and new build thread
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Intro and new build thread
IMG_0405.JPGMy handle is frankc5r and I live in Saline, Mi, just south of Ann Arbor. Worked at Univ Mich in Instrumentation for many years and had a
second life as engineer on multiple factory road racing programs over the years with the last being Corvette Racing where I initially worked
on wiring the cars and later did the radios which for a race like LeMans meant over 100 units.
Did many a hotrod over the years , one of the latest being a Cad Northstar mounted midengined in 65 Corvair.
Decided to do a kit car and 818, probably a coupe, looks like a fun project. I went ahead and got a donor car a few weeks ago from Wayne,
a 2002 WRX with little over 100k on it. Have got almost all suspension rebuilt with new bearings etc and have been cleaning up engine and trans.
Reduced harness to a couple pounds and will be doing the harness myself cause that is what I did in racing for years. Getting a Microsquirt
from Wayne. Took off trans today and car appears to have a stage 1 Exedy clutch not too long ago. Will check it for finger height and disc wear.
Going to try to attach a picture of clutch so others can tell me if I guess correctly.
Going to order from FFR when next sale comes along which some say may be about thanksgiving.
All suggestions welcomed.
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Welcome to the madness. The coupe has been a fun build, but as I'm sure you know get ready to do some personalization for a million reasons... Sounds like you picked up a good donor, which can go a long way to making the build easier (IMHO).
Other important stuff: Go Jake! Glad CR picked up the titles this year, it was a tough fight at the end. And LeMans was a heartbreaker (-not just for Toyota but also for the non-turbo GT cars).
Good luck with the kit purchase, if not Thanksgiving maybe black Friday? And have fun!
818SC chassis #206 EJ207 2.0L VF37 twin scroll || Cusco type RS 1.5 LSD || Wilwood pedal box (firewall attach) || Wilwood superlite front calipers
BUILD Phase 1: 6/6/2014 car delivered || 5/24/2015 first start || 6/7/2015 go karted || 4/20/2016 hard-top-topped || 10/25/2016 registered || 11/18/2016 inspected & complete
BUILD Phase 2: 3/8/2017 EJ207v8 || 5/29/2017 re-first re-start || 7/17/2017 re-assembled with race car bits
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Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing your build. What area did you work in on the race teams? I assume instrumentation/electronics since that is what you did at UM.
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Originally Posted by
DanielsDM
Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing your build. What area did you work in on the race teams? I assume instrumentation/electronics since that is what you did at UM.
Over the years quite a few areas. I designed and built the wiring on quite a few roadracing cars, did data acquisition , built special sensors, and in the later
years did the repeater radio systems. Motorola was a sponsor so we had access to the latest hi tech portables.
spent today cleaning up the transaxle from years of grime etc.
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Does anyone know if this is a stage 1 Exedy clutch?? Looks fairly new and was in my trans.IMG_0405.JPG
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IMG_0383c.JPGBeen working on cleaning up and rebuilding all of the donor parts especially the aluminum parts. You are probably aware the HCL or muratic acid can be used
but it is fussy and you must Always add conc Hcl to water. BUT I found that The Works toilet bowl cleaner is about 10% hcl which is about right for our use.
Older version, till epa stopped them, were 16.5% and had a thickener which was very nice as it stayed in place. But until a new version with thickener is
available, the current version works pretty good. I use a cheap brush to put it on. A few min to work, then spray water on from windex bottle and use 5 gal
vacuum to suck it all up.. I have cleaned up the engine and trans with "The Works" using a engine stand to hold things horizontal. Attached are a couple pictures.IMG_0480.JPG
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That's nice. How does it behave around steel parts? I used to use some diluted muriatic acid (pool cleaner, 10M HCl) on aluminum but if I wasn't careful, I got a lot of rust on pressed in steel pins, tubes, etc.
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Originally Posted by
turbomacncheese
That's nice. How does it behave around steel parts? I used to use some diluted muriatic acid (pool cleaner, 10M HCl) on aluminum but if I wasn't careful, I got a lot of rust on pressed in steel pins, tubes, etc.
I was careful to apply with a brush and not spray and use
multiple washes with water. You could add a little soda to water wash as a neutralizer if worried. I did not see any problems.
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Been cleaning and rebuilding parts from donor for 818 coupe build.
Some examples attached. Hope works. IMG_0525c.JPGIMG_0572c.JPGIMG_0585c.JPGIMG_0595c.JPGIMG_0599c.JPGIMG_0603c.JPGIMG_0605c.JPG
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Thanks guys. I have put in ALOT of hours. I can see getting a southern or SW donor has some real benefits.
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My dolly
Dollycmp.JPG65 Northstar Corvaircmp.jpg2012-09-14 10.46.07cmp.jpgBuild thread will be quiet for awhile as we are going to Florida for winter. Have the 818C sent up for late Mar 17 delivery when we return.
To prepare for delivery, I used others good design to make my dolly. Yes, I have about 1 in clearance for my engine hoist. Thanks for the
reminder. The car in the background is a previous project, 65 Chevy Corvair with 4.6L Northstar midengined.
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Nice to see another Michigan builder.
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Tazio Nuvolari wannabe
Originally Posted by
frankc5r
Does anyone know if this is a stage 1 Exedy clutch?? Looks fairly new and was in my trans.
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Certainly looks like the Exedy Stage 1 clutches shown on Google images and this listing, which says that they and others source their clutches from Exedy (so it may not have the Exedy name on it).
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Frank did you schedule delivery from Stewart for the 17th or completion on the 17th?
Stewart operates separate from FFR and is known to deliver at their own leisure after the FFR completion date. Southeast Michigan might not be a huge wait time, but there are plenty of horror stories of them taking 6-8 weeks to deliver kits. That's a lot of prime spring/summer build time gone.
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Thanks for reply. At the moment I told FFR I wanted it done in late March of 2017 with that possibly changing if I decide to return from Fl earlier. Had
not heard about possible long delays. I will call Stewart in early Feb to confirm delivery date. I can always take my trailer and pick it up and are tempted to so I can see factory. That does complicate unloading back at my shop.
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Originally Posted by
frankc5r
Thanks for reply. At the moment I told FFR I wanted it done in late March of 2017 with that possibly changing if I decide to return from Fl earlier. Had
not heard about possible long delays. I will call Stewart in early Feb to confirm delivery date. I can always take my trailer and pick it up and are tempted to so I can see factory. That does complicate unloading back at my shop.
Frank
unloading is not that difficult. you can lift on end of the frame by yourself.
Take the body off and then you can get the frame off.
Bob
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Originally Posted by
turbomacncheese
that's nice. How does it behave around steel parts? I used to use some diluted muriatic acid (pool cleaner, 10m hcl) on aluminum but if i wasn't careful, i got a lot of rust on pressed in steel pins, tubes, etc.
Also, HCL will aggressively attack zinc. A thin layer of zinc is applied all nuts and bolts to help prevent the steel from rusting. On a donor some of the engine hardware can be lacking some of this zinc plating. Other builders have gone so far as to sent all of their hardware to a local zinc plating facility. http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post176232
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Originally Posted by
TouchStone
Also, HCL will aggressively attack zinc. A thin layer of zinc is applied all nuts and bolts to help prevent the steel from rusting. On a donor some of the engine hardware can be lacking some of this zinc plating. Other builders have gone so far as to sent all of their hardware to a local zinc plating facility.
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post176232
I bought from Caswell Plating some DIY kits for zinc and nickel plating. They have worked well in the past for plating car hardware.
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Well today is delivery day for 818C so , of course,
it is time for the worst blizzard of winter. Plowed
driveway 3 times and still it comes. Driver says cart has 8 in wheels so he is not worried it I have hill so got truck to slow cart down on way to shop. Wish me luck!!
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Good luck today, Frank!! Be sure to post some photos of the delivery.
818S/C : Chassis #25 with 06 WRX 2.5 turbo, ABS, cruise, PS, A/C, Apple CarPlay, rear camera, power windows & locks, leather & other complexities. Sold 10/19 with 5,800 miles.
Mk3 Roadster #6228 4.6L, T45, IRS, PS, PB, ABS, Cruise, Koni's, 17" Halibrands, red w/ silver - 9K miles then sold @ Barrett-Jackson Jan 2011 (got back cash spent).
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What a day! Spent all day replowing driveway from crazy snow storm. Semi arrived and he did not feel it was safe to unload. Also happened to the 33 hotrod in Westland who could not get a flatbed
truck. Was my only choice for delivery. He said he usually unloads 90 % from road but with snow, just could not do. I was lucky to find a flatbed truck in middle of a snow storm. We all met at a Walmart about a mile away and he unloaded car sitting on dolly onto the flatbed. Tied it down and off to my shop where I got the car at last. Took a nice video of driver using the hoist to unload car but its to big to load here and the mov size reducer I used did not reduce size enough. Will try to add some pictures here. Hope it works.
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Manual is new R version.
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Originally Posted by
frankc5r
What a day! Spent all day replowing driveway from crazy snow storm. Semi arrived and he did not feel it was safe to unload. Also happened to the 33 hotrod in Westland who could not get a flatbed
truck. Was my only choice for delivery. He said he usually unloads 90 % from road but with snow, just could not do. I was lucky to find a flatbed truck in middle of a snow storm. We all met at a Walmart about a mile away and he unloaded car sitting on dolly onto the flatbed. Tied it down and off to my shop where I got the car at last.
Congrats! That sounds familiar... due to access my delivery had to unloaded the same way at a local high school parking lot; luckily a neighbor hat a flatbed to borrow unexpectedly.
Originally Posted by
frankc5r
Took a nice video of driver using the hoist to unload car but its to big to load here and the mov size reducer I used did not reduce size enough..
You can upload it to YouTube in full resolution, and then link to it here; it will be imbeded and play right from the forum page.
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Congrats Frank! Can't wait to see it completed
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Good work getting it done, Frank. That looks like a very serious garage - I'm envious.
818S/C : Chassis #25 with 06 WRX 2.5 turbo, ABS, cruise, PS, A/C, Apple CarPlay, rear camera, power windows & locks, leather & other complexities. Sold 10/19 with 5,800 miles.
Mk3 Roadster #6228 4.6L, T45, IRS, PS, PB, ABS, Cruise, Koni's, 17" Halibrands, red w/ silver - 9K miles then sold @ Barrett-Jackson Jan 2011 (got back cash spent).
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Looks like it was quite a process. My shop isn't accessible with a big rig so I had to do something similar. Now the fun begins!
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I have uploaded the video of unloading my 818C from the Stewart Transportation semi using its nice crane system on rails.
https://youtu.be/YAz68XATaaA
It had been snowing all day and Stewart could not unload safely at my shop so off to Walmart Parking lot. 33 hotrod in background was supposed to go to Westland
but could not get done.
Last edited by frankc5r; 03-14-2017 at 06:45 PM.
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Hi Frank, If you click on the Insert Video icon and paste the full YouTube URL, you can have your videos playable right in the forum window like this:
Brrr! That looks like the same driver who delivered my kit (quite a while ago), but I had a bit warmer weather...
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Last edited by frankc5r; 03-15-2017 at 05:39 PM.
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Way to go Frank. Keep us informed on your progress.
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Got thru the packing list and only missing a few items.. Got the roof off and stored. Pretty close to actually starting on build..
Some pictures attached.
IMG_0961cmp.JPG car as delivered, roof off
IMG_0962cmp.JPG View of shop, 1 of 2 rooms
IMG_0965cmp.JPG roof suspended, plywood floor bet lift rails to store body
IMG_0966cmp.JPG front firewall
IMG_0967cmp.JPG rear firewall
IMG_0968cmp.JPG front interior
IMG_0971cmp.JPG roll cage
Thanks to those who posted to id parts.
The carbon pieces all look excellent.
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Now let the games begin, ENJOY
Nice shop BTW
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Glad that you were able to overcome delivery challenges; Mother Nature sure can be uncooperative!
I am totally jealous of your garage! It sure looks like you have a great set-up, and from the looks of your prep work, you have all you need. I have enjoyed watching you get your donor parts ready. They look fantastic, and it sure shows your patience.
Congratulations on your delivery. I look forward to following your build!
Regards,
Steve
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Hey you got it! That's great! Already installed and painted the front FW, good building pace, keep it up.
Nice pictures and I can tell these shiny frame tubes won't stay shiny for very long (dust), so savor the moment!
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
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did you use paint, rubberized undercoating or truck bed liner on the firewall?? Also, if you finish before me then you're welcome to come help me with my kit