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Rob's Austin 427 Build
Here we go....
My 18 yr old and I are going to be working on this together before he heads off to college in a few weeks and then while he's home on his breaks. Very excited! Due to Covid my work load has been drastically reduced so it has allowed me time to get the garage ready for the new project. Here are a few before and after pix. My first time posting pictures so we'll see if formats correctly. and we received our complete kit on 7/7/20. Next post I'll add a few pix of our progress...
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Last edited by bldr.rob; 07-22-2020 at 02:14 PM.
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We finally got through our inventory last Friday 7/17. Wasn't bad but we are missing all of box #6 which is the rivet pattern and more aluminum panels. Other parts and pieces are supposed to be here in 2 more weeks, per FFR.
So this weekend we were able to actually start working on the car. Got the body off, all the aluminum traced to the frame and then removed. Also got to build a new work bench, early birthday present, so that was cool. Saturday afternoon we started on the Front Upper Control arms and Front Lower Control arms. Everything went together pretty well for the most part but the build manual does leave a little to be desired. Thank goodness for the build threads from EdwardB, BasdAsp, Al Pacino, Yama-Bro and others that provide incredible detail!! We also got the frame buck done but apparently I didn't pay attention when ordering the casters online and only ordered 1, DOH! The other 3 should be here today so we can get the frame off the jack stands and on to the dolly. IMO, the jack stands will work for this project but I feel the frame buck will keep it a lot more sturdy.
Sunday, we worked on the front shocks and the spindles. Shocks were easy to get together but we did have a head scratching moment trying to figure out how to get the hat on. Then it dawned on both of us that the gap in the hat is meant to slide in around the shock strut. Put the shocks on and started on the spindles.
The spindles were a little more challenging trying to get the kastle nuts tightened to not only the correct torque spec but then adding a little more oomph to turn them to align the holes for the cotter pins. Thanks again to the FF Facebook page and the feedback from folks there. We got them on and buttoned up. Here are a few pics of our progress. If anyone sees anything that doesn't look quite right PLEASE don't hesitate to let me know. I have some mechanical knowledge but am by no means a mechanic. Thanks.
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Welcome aboard, Rob! Looks like you're making good progress.
MKIV Complete Kit #9822 l BluePrint 347 EFI l TKO600 l Power Steering l Heater/Defrost l
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Welcome Rob! James here.. following along!
James
FFR33 #997 (Gen1 chassis, Gen2 body), license plate DRIVE IT says it all!
build thread
My build: 350SBC, TKO600, hardtop, no fenders/hood, 32 grill, 3 link, sway bars, 355/30r19
Previous cars: GTD40, Cobra, tubeframe 55 Chevy, 66 Nova, 56 F100
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Thx JB. We're enjoying following your build thread and all the helpful tips too.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Hey James! Thx, were enjoying following your build too. Need to make it up there and check it out still
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Congratulations and welcome. You and your son are in for a good time and great memories. Unfortunately, many of us have extra time on our hands these days. Thanks for posting so we can follow along. Don’t feel bad about asking questions. We have plenty of time to help.
-Steve
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Excellent start Rob! Welcome aboard, enjoy the madness, and I look forward to watching your build.
MK IV Build #9659, 3 link, 17's, Forte 347, Sniper EFI, power steering, built for a freak sized person with 17" Kirkey Vintage seats, RT drop trunk, RT turn signal, lots of stuff from Breeze Automotive, Wilwood brakes, paint by Jeff Miller
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Check your steering arms.
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Welcome to the family Rob. I could not think of a better project to do with your son. Also great job on the garage.
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It's been a little while since we've posted but we've been making some good progress before we took our son off to college last week. Many lessons learned! First off, the build book is really more of a suggestion and thank goodness for this amazing forum and the builders who came before us and documented their builds so well! At times it feel like we've spent more time researching a question on the forum than actually working on the car. Thanks to Yamabro, GoDadGo, Meindle, BadAsp, Pat427, Al Pacino and many others. We've been able to complete the front and rear axles and gas tank. Most of the aluminum has been drilled and set in place but I am going to take the pieces that will be seen over to a powder coater to have them coated the same color, or as close as we can get, to the Guardsman Blue we are going to paint the car. I'm still working on how to get pictures to post correctly on the forum but here are a few of our progress....
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This was a brilliant idea we found, I believe from YamaBro, about using zip ties to hold the rear brake pad clips in place. Geez that made it much easier and reduced the frustration!
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Rear axle installed
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Power steering rack installed. The PS side tie rod is father out than the DS side and the boots(?) are just barely touching the frame. Does this look ok?
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Gas tank installed. Same as others have experienced, the bolts sent with the kit aren't long enough so I installed these temporarily until I can get the longer ones. I straightened out the flange around the tank that had been bent up and it looks like at 3 of the 4 locations where the strap secures the tank it will work but the PS front side flange looks like I'll have to bend that area back up so the bolt and strap will align more vertically.
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Aluminum installed temporarily....
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Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Looking good. I've found that if you email the pictures to yourself before uploading to My Albums in Gallery it will fix the rotation issue. I did a video on this and other issue a while ago, it's long-winded and some steps are unnecessary, but it might help you:
https://youtu.be/vQ2jbt0FGNY
Bradley
Bradley
Build thread - Mk4, Coyote, IRS, Wilwood brakes, old-style soft top and accessories.
The distance between "finished" and finished is literally infinite.
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GTBradley
Looking good. I've found that if you email the pictures to yourself before uploading to My Albums in Gallery it will fix the rotation issue. I did a video on this and other issue a while ago, it's long-winded and some steps are unnecessary, but it might help you:
https://youtu.be/vQ2jbt0FGNY
Bradley
Bradley - thanks for the link! I’ll check it out and get the pictures better next time. Hopefully then I can post more frequently too.
Rob
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Sure thing. It's still not easy, this site is stuck in the early 2000s, technologically speaking, but at least you can get the things done that you want.
PS. Mess around with the little buttons above the text window too. They are handy for posting videos and other functions. (I didn't do it on my post to keep it short in your build thread)
Bradley
Build thread - Mk4, Coyote, IRS, Wilwood brakes, old-style soft top and accessories.
The distance between "finished" and finished is literally infinite.
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Originally Posted by
GTBradley
Sure thing. It's still not easy, this site is stuck in the early 2000s, technologically speaking, but at least you can get the things done that you want.
PS. Mess around with the little buttons above the text window too. They are handy for posting videos and other functions. (I didn't do it on my post to keep it short in your build thread)
Ok, thanks. I've read through the thread and for some reason I just can't get my laptop to upload more than one picture at a time to my Photo Album on the forum. I've tried Shift+select and Ctrl+select and neither seem to select more than one picture. It just picks the one that was selected. Any thoughts on how to change this? It doesn't appear that my flash player is blocked, I don't see the icon on the page. Sorry for the need for remedial help on this. Thanks!
Test pic of garage upgrades from Gallery. See if this shows up as a thumbnail or full size.
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Test bend on a wire hanger before using the real fuel lines...
Test pic from folder on computer
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Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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I still need help on that one. I've never been able to upload more than one at a time. Maybe someone else can chime in and help us both...
Bradley
Build thread - Mk4, Coyote, IRS, Wilwood brakes, old-style soft top and accessories.
The distance between "finished" and finished is literally infinite.
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Hey Rob! Welcome to the forum. Your build is looking great so far. I love the Shelby neon sign in the garage - nice touch!
MkIV Roadster build: Gen 2 Coyote, IRS, TKO600. Ordered 10/24/18. Delivered 1/29/19. Engine installed 8/8/21. First start 9/12/21. First go-kart 9/17/21. Off to paint 4/11/22. Back from paint 12/30/22.
Build thread here.
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Originally Posted by
GTBradley
I still need help on that one. I've never been able to upload more than one at a time. Maybe someone else can chime in and help us both...
That's how it works.. one at a time. I always go through this process (but everyone has their own!)> Take pictures > which get synced with my mac automatically via dropbox > which I then resize all to 900 width using Preview > which I then upload one at a time using the Advanced editor. Without the resizing, you can hit a size limit.
James
FFR33 #997 (Gen1 chassis, Gen2 body), license plate DRIVE IT says it all!
build thread
My build: 350SBC, TKO600, hardtop, no fenders/hood, 32 grill, 3 link, sway bars, 355/30r19
Previous cars: GTD40, Cobra, tubeframe 55 Chevy, 66 Nova, 56 F100
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Looking good!
I'm not too far from you in New Braunfels. If you make down this way, be sure to give me a shout.
Originally Posted by
bldr.rob
Here we go....
My 18 yr old and I are going to be working on this together before he heads off to college in a few weeks and then while he's home on his breaks. Very excited! Due to Covid my work load has been drastically reduced so it has allowed me time to get the garage ready for the new project. Here are a few before and after pix. My first time posting pictures so we'll see if formats correctly. and we received our complete kit on 7/7/20. Next post I'll add a few pix of our progress...
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Pat427
Looking good!
I'm not too far from you in New Braunfels. If you make down this way, be sure to give me a shout.
Thanks Pat. Sent you a PM.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Your build is looking good. Depending on the look you want, on the aluminum panels that your going to sharkhyde, I used a green scotch bright pad / 320 grit sand paper and went back and forth in one direction to create a very clean smooth look, then the sharkhyde worked great. after 10,000 miles, my bare panels still look really good.
A simple fix on the photos that may make your posting photos a little easier. When I click the add photo icon, it open up the folder where the photos on my computer are at, or I navigate to that folder that I want. Then, I "Right Click" on the photo and the select "Edit" (Not Edit with...) This open the photo in paint and then just hit "save" If you want to do any editing, now is the time, but just hitting save will save the orientation codes needed to post the photo correctly to the forum. After saving, close paint and attach photo as you normally would.
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Steve >> aka: GoDadGo
Remember to layout and install the rear wiring harness before you permanently attach the trunk floor pans.
Good Luck & Hap-Hap-Happy Rivetting!
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BadAsp427
Your build is looking good. Depending on the look you want, on the aluminum panels that your going to sharkhyde, I used a green scotch bright pad / 320 grit sand paper and went back and forth in one direction to create a very clean smooth look, then the sharkhyde worked great. after 10,000 miles, my bare panels still look really good.
A simple fix on the photos that may make your posting photos a little easier. When I click the add photo icon, it open up the folder where the photos on my computer are at, or I navigate to that folder that I want. Then, I "Right Click" on the photo and the select "Edit" (Not Edit with...) This open the photo in paint and then just hit "save" If you want to do any editing, now is the time, but just hitting save will save the orientation codes needed to post the photo correctly to the forum. After saving, close paint and attach photo as you normally would.
Thanks for the tip on the scotch bright pad! That's exactly what we were thinking we'd try to do. I bought some 0000 steel wool to try as well. I actually have an extra aluminum panel from the DS front footbox so I was going to do samples on each side to see how it looks. Was going to do that this weekend but threw my back out last week so hopefully I'll be able to get to it soon and I'll post up some pictures.
Thanks for the tip on the pictures as well!
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Originally Posted by
GoDadGo
Remember to layout and install the rear wiring harness before you permanently attach the trunk floor pans.
Good Luck & Hap-Hap-Happy Rivetting!
Thank you for the tip! I greatly appreciate it.
Definitely nervous about making anything permanent. Would like to try to keep the re-do's to a minimum! But, we live and we learn and hopefully don't make the same mistake twice.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Looking really good... On the UCA sleeves that you cut off, did you also cut off some of the threaded ends that go into those sleeves? You may want to check to be sure that they are not going to bottom out inside the sleeve. Remember also, the threads in each end of the sleeve is going opposite of the other end. So in other words, they can only go on so far before the threads change direction.
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BadAsp427
Looking really good... On the UCA sleeves that you cut off, did you also cut off some of the threaded ends that go into those sleeves? You may want to check to be sure that they are not going to bottom out inside the sleeve. Remember also, the threads in each end of the sleeve is going opposite of the other end. So in other words, they can only go on so far before the threads change direction.
Thanks for the heads up on that! I'll definitely check that before putting it all back together. Hoping to get back out to the garage this weekend.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Your steering arms are backwards.
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mosh1999
Your steering arms are backwards.
Well.....shoot. Thanks for double checking my work! We'll get those switched around.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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The racks are not centered in the chassis. I suggest you follow this procedure.
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...etup-Procedure
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mosh1999
Mosh - Thank you for the quick replay and great link! I'll check it out and get things straightened out. Have a great weekend.
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Engine and Trans Ordered! Happy Day!
We were finally able to order our engine and transmission today! I think I'm almost as excited as the day we ordered the car and the day it showed up! I appreciate all of the discussions on here about what the "best" set up is for these cars as well as the engine builders who are a great part of this community. After much research, we decided to go with a carbureted 427c.i. from Blueprint Engines paired with a TKO 600 (.64 OD). Johnny over there was a HUGE help with answering all of my questions. Thank you to all on the forum willing to share their experiences and knowledge as well!
Here's a few more details on what we have coming:
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Engine:
427c.i. carbureted
485hp / 475ft lbs torque
Holley 870cfm with vacuum secondaries and electric choke
Power steering
Transmission
TKO 600 with .64 OD
Manifold: Weiand dual-plane satin finish
Ignition/Distributor: Ready to run distributor with ignition coil
Block:
NEW! DART SHP small block
Cleveland mains
Square and parallel decked
Align honed main bearing bore
Cylinders honed on computer controlled machine to within .0002 straightness and roundness
Rotating Assembly:
H-Beam 6-200" rods
4032 forged pistons
ARP 8740 rod bolts
Hastings moly rings
Internally balanced rotating assembly
High volume oil pump
Hydraulic roller camshaft
Heavy-duty roller timing set
Heads:
BluePrint Performance aluminum
60cc chamber
Roller 1.6 ratio rockers
Hardened retainers & springs
2.02 swirl polished intake valves
1.60 swirl polished exhaust valves
Cam Specs:
Roller cam
.608 intake .608 exhaust
248 intake / 258 exhaust @ .050
114 degree lobe seperation
Also Includes:
Ford Racing 427 Cobra aluminum valve covers
Aluminum oval air cleaner with Cobra script (may change this to the turkey pan I've read that others feel works better)
Harmonic balancer
Aluminum water pump w/driver side inlet
Spark plugs & wires
Timing cover
Powder coated oil pan
180 degree thermoset & housing
Oil filter
Plug wire seperators
Fel-Pro molded silicone steel core gaskets
Fel-Pro performance wire ring head gaskets
Brass freeze plugs
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Pedals and master cylinders complete
Tinkered with the pedals a bit more yesterday. Got the hydraulic clutch master cylinder installed and got the pedals aligned. Accelerator cable is not connected yet. I'm thinking we will go with the a better set up that Johnny over at Blueprint Engines recommend for us. Lokar hi-tech stainless steel cable and ss bracket. (we ordered our engine through Johnny and should helpfully have it here by mid February)
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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Wiring Begins
While we are waiting on the second batch of aluminum to be powder coated as well as waiting on delivery of several others parts to wrap up the brake lines we decided to get started on what, to me and as many others have admitted, the most intimidating part of the build - the wiring. Started laying everything out and got the first piece done before we had to call it a day. I'll call this a win. :-) Unfortunately we are under quarantine until Monday due to my son getting Covid a couple of weeks ago so I'll have to wait until then to get over to the hardware store to get the 1-1/4" bit to drill the 2 holes in the firewall. After that we'll get the wiring fed through the firewall.
Lots of connections to make!
Inertia switch mounted
Mark IV Complete kit delivered 7/7/20
Blueprint 427 ordered 11/23/20
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