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MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
I removed the body Edwardb style. I welded that rack which I clamped to the lift out of $42 worth of scrap steel from our local distributor
The next time this engine goes in it is staying. I hope...
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Looking G-G-Good Dr. Mark!
Very, very cool - nice work Doc! Looks like Tony Stark/Ironman’s garage...
Chris
Generation 3 Type 65 Daytona Coupe Complete Kit #151885 received May 6, 2022. Gen 3 Coyote, IRS, Tremec TKX, American Powertrain hydraulic throwout bearing & Wilwood brakes.
MK4 Basic Kit #7404, 347 EFI - Pro M Racing ECM, 30# injectors, 70 mm throttle body, 80 mm MAF, Edelbrock Performer aluminum heads & RPM II intake, all new G-Force T5, 3:55 gears, Pro 5.0 shifter, 3-link, carbon fiber dash/custom Speedhut gauges and paint by Da Bat.
Thanks guys
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Looking good! You are making great progress!
Started dreaming of a Cobra around 1987
Purchased Complete Kit 6/9/2017, Delivered 9/4/2017, Rolling Chassis 3/30/2018, Engine Dyno'ed 3/4/2022, Engine installed 8/27/2022, First start 6/13/2024, Go Kart 8/19/2024
Click here for my build thread
Serial #9158
Design Engineer at BluePrint Engines
Thanks Yama-Bro,
Its amazing how addicting and fun this is.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Generation 3 Type 65 Daytona Coupe Complete Kit #151885 received May 6, 2022. Gen 3 Coyote, IRS, Tremec TKX, American Powertrain hydraulic throwout bearing & Wilwood brakes.
MK4 Basic Kit #7404, 347 EFI - Pro M Racing ECM, 30# injectors, 70 mm throttle body, 80 mm MAF, Edelbrock Performer aluminum heads & RPM II intake, all new G-Force T5, 3:55 gears, Pro 5.0 shifter, 3-link, carbon fiber dash/custom Speedhut gauges and paint by Da Bat.
Hi Mark,
I've spent a lot of this morning reading this thread during breaks before work, lunchtime, and in meetings. I really enjoy your build and sense of humour ("Ask me how I know.")
I have been on the forum for over a year with the full intention of building a FFR 818. I even have the donor sitting in my driveway for the past year. My original plan was to build the 818 first and then after having that experience build the Cobra. The Cobra has been a dream of mine for over 40 years. I even saw an original 289 Cobra sell for $43k CDN at an auction in 1982, but I was too poor to even consider it. After reading all the difficulties the 818 builders are having with bodywork and windows in the coupe, I'm thinking that the Cobra might be easier and more satisfying -- although more costly. To investigate the build issues on the Cobra, I started to look at some build threads. This is where I found your thread among others. The information is great in all the build threads and i am making notes on all of the learnings (i.e. mistakes) done by others before me. With any luck, I can minimize the costly mistakes in my build.
BTW, I have total garage envy! You have a great space for your build. Keep the posts and photos coming!
Cheers!
Russ
Thanks for the input Russ, I'm glad your getting something out of my build thread. I'm really having fun building this thing. Those 818s look like a fun build as well. Reading as many threads as you can is a great idea to help you avoid costly mistakes. The downside is you will find all kinds of cool mods which will run up the cost!
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
I re-routed my rear brake flex lines, for the third time, to clear the UCA, CV axle and coil over with more room. I think this is more consistent with the manual and still allows me access to the lines when the car is completed. I appreciate Edwardb's note of concern with my 2nd routing placement.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Looks great, Mark. Where did you source the knob for your engine hoist leveler? The crappy plastic one didn't last through one installation.
Dave
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
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Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
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Dave's Cobra YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk...npK1UZHj4R-bYQ
Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
Thanks Dave, yeah that leveler works well but the handle was a piece of garbage. Here's what I replaced it with
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I double checked on the J.W. Winco website to make sure the stud size was correct. M10 -1.0 or 1.5 I think. Anyway, it works great!
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
(Most viewed Roadster build thread on this forum!)
Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
Member of the Mile-Hi Cobra Club
Dave's Cobra YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk...npK1UZHj4R-bYQ
Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
I've been at this ABS mod for a long time and have talked to alot of folks. I'm not sure I can make this work but here is what I've come up with. This is a 4 channel ABS module from a 2013 Mustang GT. I wanted to use a 2015 model to match the IRS but believe it or not the wrecking companies kept sending them to me without the wiring harnesses attached! I found the wiring manual on Ebay.
I welded the mounting bracket on PS front.
Here it is with the brake lines installed
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Mark,
You Must Really Plan To Go Fast Since You're Installing ABS To Stop That Sucker!
This feature will really be unique for sure on a Factory Five.
Keep Wrenching Doc, Keep Wrenching!
Steve
This is great. Love to see guys taking it to the next level. Good luck.
-Steve
Mk IV #8901 - Complete kit, Coyote, TKO-600, IRS. Ordered 5/23/16, Delivered 7/14/16, First Start 8/13/17, First Go-Kart 10/22/17, Registered and Completed 10/18/18. Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...V-Coyote-Build Graduation Thread: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...-Roadster-8901
Thanks guys
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
I had to remove the rear wilwood brakes to install the ABS speed sensors. These are 2015 Mustang sensors that I plan to route to my 2013 ABS module.
Is this going to work?!
I tapped the access hole to 1/4" -20 and bolted them in with blue loctite. Everything was going well until I was re-installing the DS wildwood and torquing to 77 ft/lb and managed to shear BOTH bolts. WTF, did I read the directions wrong?!
After kicking some things around and taking the Lord's name in vain I managed to back those bolts out and get the wilwoods back on.
That episode took almost three hours. The PS, maybe 15 minutes...
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
The large bolts (in your picture) holding the caliper mounting bracket to the knuckle are 70 ft/lbs.
The smaller bolts (the ones you broke) holding the e-brake mounting bracket to the caliper mounting bracket are listed in the instructions as 30 ft/lbs. That would do it.
Last edited by edwardb; 05-26-2018 at 05:31 AM.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
Holy crap sorry to hear that, but at least you got them out. I've got to take all my calipers off the rears to swap my rotors to the other side since I put them on backwards. I'm hoping a hot soldering iron to the bolt heads will be enough to break down the red loc-tite.
In the wake of the HB rally my head has been full of all kinds of cool mods that I want to do to my MK4. I bought a bandsaw which turned out to be a great purchase. Today I started fabrication on a new firewall. I cut it out of 1/8" aluminum panel. The saw cut through it like butter, really impressive.
I also got these Gates hose clamps idea after seeing them on RR20AC's car at HB. I put them on my MC reservoir hoses.
Finally, after browsing through Papa's build thread I realized I hadn't used Antiseize on my header bolts or gasket sealer so I took those off and redid it. And torqued them to 20 ft-lb.
Turns out my headers didn't come with a fancy locking bolt tab kit thing so I'll have to get them from Summit. It would get awful loud if those header bolts back out. Probably loud enough to drown out the ridiculously overpowered stereo I'm planning.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
After much deliberation and input from a gearhead friend I have decided to postpone my ABS system for now. So, I took the module out and replumbed the whole thing with 3/16" tubing. I bench bleed the MC's and pressure bleed the brakes and it seems to be working fine.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
So what was the deciding factor? I have ABS and really like how it works. If you install it but don't like it, it's simple to unplug and the brake system works like the ABS module isn't there.
King
Roadster #8127, ordered 7/12/13, received 9/11/13
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...4-Coyote-Build
The number one issue came down to time and my lack of it. I would have left the module in place but the bore on the supplied MC wasn't enough to actuate the brakes given I had to replace the 3/16" lines with 5/16" line which is what the module accepts. It was a volume issue and probably an MC with 67% more bore would have done it but it is not exact science and may have take several trial and errors with different MCs. I am not opposed to that but I figured the time I need to make this work vs how badly I want to move on with the build made it not worth it at this point. The wiring wasn't going to be so bad given that I had the pigtail and wiring manual and I think I can make it work as a stand alone unit, however, figuring out how to read fault codes was going to be tricky and another time consuming issue.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
In preparation to start on my dash and another funky trunk mod idea I got a the Hunting Beach show I put the body back on the chassis. After fussing with it for a while it seems to fit pretty well. The one issue I notice is the body behind the PS seat is higher than behind the DS seat. Here is a photo, this is with the undercarriage bolts which came with the kit it place.
I put 5/8" worth of shim between the body and chassis on the PS ...
It looks better now. That just seems like a lot of shim to have down there, the DS body is flush against the chassis.
Not sure what else to do. Any thoughts?
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Mark,
I don't think you want to shim the body away from the frame along the bottom. Have you trimmed any of the aluminum along the trunk side and rear cockpit wall? Mine is sitting flush with the frame along the bottom without any bulb or other weather seals in place yet. I expect that I'll need to do some minor trimming to get the body to sit right once the seals are installed.
Dave
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
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Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
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Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
Thanks Dave, I haven't trimmed any of the trunk panels and they are abutting the body. Maybe trimming them will help. I did trim the cockpit panels and they don't touch the body anymore or seem to be "pushing" on it anywhere. How much of a gap did you go for between they panels and body?
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
I've not done any trimming yet on those panels, which is what I was getting at. I was trying to understand why your body is sitting lower than where I think it should be and was asking if maybe you trimmed them a bit too aggressively. From what I understand, the body is supported by and will rest snugly on the seals along the tops of the firewall, cockpit, and trunk panels as well as a portion of the square tubes along the front fenders closer to the firewall.
Dave
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
(Most viewed Roadster build thread on this forum!)
Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
Member of the Mile-Hi Cobra Club
Dave's Cobra YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk...npK1UZHj4R-bYQ
Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
One more thing, Mark. My rear cockpit wall was the last panel to go into the cockpit and sits on top of and in front of all the other panels it's connected to. You can sort of see that in this picture:
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
(Most viewed Roadster build thread on this forum!)
Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
Member of the Mile-Hi Cobra Club
Dave's Cobra YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk...npK1UZHj4R-bYQ
Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
Here are my trunk panels. It is kind of hard to see in the photos so I put in arrows where they are bumping up against the body. How much should I trim?
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Mark,
I think what you need to trim is just where the panels would prevent the body from resting evenly across the entire length. I also checked those belt opening and my driver's side is just like yours compared with the passenger side. I don't think these cars are very symmetrical, and from what I've heard you can go crazy if you try to get them that way.
Dave
My Build Thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ter-Build-9754
(Most viewed Roadster build thread on this forum!)
Delivered: 6/17/2017
First Start: 12/30/2017
Completed: 12/7/2019
Legal: 1/30/2020
Member of the Mile-Hi Cobra Club
Dave's Cobra YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbk...npK1UZHj4R-bYQ
Agora 1:8 Scale Cobra Build: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...l-Build-Thread
Do you have your rear bumper hardware installed? If not what you see is meaningless because the tail will droop. With the tail at the proper height you want to see about 3/8" gap...but that can change depending on how far in or out the lower valance is adjusted...which will be determined by the trunk lid. See where I'm going? Step 1 before step 2 before step 3 and so on. It all plays together with most changes or adjustments affecting another.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff,
I have the quick jack bolts it place which look like they are holding up the tail. And as I answer this and see your signature I realize that I have been meaning to read your bodywork thread. That will probably answer most of my questions.
Mark
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
Will do, thanks Jeff!
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
At the Mott build school they recommended using a fat sharpie and holding it parallel to the body and run it along the inside. Anywhere it touches and marks the aluminum is where you may want to trim.
Thanks for the tip, I guess I forgot to write down that tidbit while I was at the school.
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread
I agree with that method. But just suggest using caution. Make sure the body is properly positioned, the right height, everything else is in the ballpark (e.g. doors, hood, trunk lid) before cutting metal. I've seen several builds where guys got aggressive and then ended up with gaps. As the old saying goes, easier to take the material off than put it back on. My personal experience with fitting three Roadster bodies is the rear valance required some trimming in some cases, and in one case a little on the firewall. But nothing else. The trunk sides can be repositioned in some cases rather than trimming. Take your time and don't do anything in isolation. Almost everything affects something else.
Last edited by edwardb; 07-04-2018 at 06:10 AM.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
Good advice, thanks Paul
MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017, Street Legal 2/14/2020.
DART SHP 347, EFI, TKO600, IRS
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...n-Build-Thread