My One Year Delay Is Now Over!

[GKindle]

Steve,
Sorry to hear about your engine problems. I know you will get it worked out. As something e who is just starting the build process, it makes me very nervous to read about the unexpected (and probably expensive) surprises. Good luck

[turbonut48]

Come on GoDadGo, I m on pins and noodles waiting for the diagnosis.

The Nut

[GoDadGo]

Come on GoDadGo, I m on pins and noodles waiting for the diagnosis.

The Nut

You must have missed the diagnosis since this thread is almost as long as Father Time's Calendar:

1. The engine builder hit two water jackets when he was clearancing the block for to accept the stroker rotating assembly.
2. He never told me that he screwed up my block and did his best to hide his tracks using some JB-Weld to plug the holes.
3. Now I'm replacing the block with a new Dart SHP Mill and upgrading the cam to a roller set up in the process.

Thanks For Dropping In & We'll Leave The Light On For You!

Steve

Dart Block Delivery Day Video:
https://youtu.be/IGYtX-3p7xk

[Cobradavid]

Steve,

Your perseverance, great attitude and good humor are an inspiration! I know you'll get this issue resolved.

David

[Avalanche325]

Sorry to hear that it is the block.

The DART block should last pretty much forever though.

[GoDadGo]

David,
We all know that the difference between a good day and a bad day is your attitude so what else can I do?

Avalanche,
I'm not 100% sure what the culprit is, but I feel confident that by the end of the weekend I'll know for sure.
If a Dart Block becomes the foundation, then the only OE Chevy part that will be on this car will be the ZF 6-Speed Transmission.
The block is already topped with Dart Heads so they may feel more at home on a Dart Block!

Thanks All!

Steve

[David Hodgkins]

Your attitude is an inspiration. And in reality, the best way to go about a project of this magnitude.

Well done my brother.

[GoDadGo]

It's The Block Gentlemen!

The Water jackets in the bottom of the block were hit and sealed by the builder when he opened things up to clear the rotating assembly.

I didn't do the work so my Former Motor Mentor will be getting a call from me on Monday or Tuesday.

The reason for the delay for my call is because I need to cool my temper a bit and say a prayer for patience.

Have A Great Weekend Gang & Stand At Attention With Your Hand Over Your Heart When Our National Anthem Is Played!

Steve

[adubbelde]

Sorry to hear that Steve. Thanks for your inspiration.

[Jeff Kleiner]

Sorry to hear that Steve. Kinda' blows that he apparently knew that he created a problem and didn't step up

Jeff

[GoDadGo]

Sorry to hear that Steve. Kinda' blows that he apparently knew that he created a problem and didn't step up

Jeff

If the block wasn't capable of being opened up enough to install this rotating assembly, then he should have said that we needed a new block.
Instead, he put J.B. Weld or some similar product in two spots in the of the block to seal the holes that he had to make to clear the assembly.
Since I've told him about the issue, he's insisted on coming over to put "Bock Sealant" in my engine which was never going to happen.
Liers Lie & Stealers Steal; however, I didn't think he was either so now I know.

I'll Be Ordering A Dart Block On Payday!

Some lessons need to be learned the hard way and the one I keep learning is that putting faith in any person is often unwarranted.

[RoadRacer]

Liers Lie & Stealers Steal; however, I didn't think he was either so now I know.
Some lessons need to be learned the hard way and the one I keep learning is that putting faith in any person is often unwarranted.

Ugh indeed

I'll Be Ordering A Dart Block On Payday!.

But here is the silver lining...

[Szatan5721]

Sorry for your troubles
You have a great attitude though

[scottiec]

Man Steve that is rough to hear. Sorry man

[Jim1855]

Steve,
Sorry to hear of your engine problems but as many have said better now or somewhere close to home than cruising a distance away. Had that happen, wasn't any fun and rather expensive. Hope your engine builder can help you out. BTW, I've been a Chevy and Vette fan for years, so no ribbing from me. I will, however, laugh at the cartoons.
Jim

[RickP]

When you get things sorted out Steve, take the old block and place it on his front porch.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

You get to open the box for an early Christmas.

[NAZ]

Tough break Steve and I know it hurts all the more knowing that the guy who did the machine work covered his tracks instead of owning the mistake and making it right. Good call on the corrective action -- you will end up with a bulletproof block that should last you a long time and allow you to add power down the road if you choose. You can never have too much horsepower.

[GoDadGo]

Tough break Steve and I know it hurts all the more knowing that the guy who did the machine work covered his tracks instead of owning the mistake and making it right. Good call on the corrective action -- you will end up with a bulletproof block that should last you a long time and allow you to add power down the road if you choose. You can never have too much horsepower.

NAZ,
I've known this fellow and used his machine shop since 1982 and I never had an issue with his work so he was my Go-To-Guy for over 30 years.
That's why I had no issue letting him do the work since I was uncomfortable with doing block clearancing and other more difficult assembly processes associated with building an H-Beam Long Rodded Stroker Motor.
What blew me away was the fact that he attempted to hide his tracks and built the motor when he knew that I needed an aftermarket block to make it all fit.

Factory Five Gang,
I appreciate all of your support and know that soon there will be no Chevy Cobra coming out of my garage.
It Will Be A Dart Cobra Instead!

PS: If any of you have not seen NAZ's build album, then you don't know what you are missing.

[bobl]

Sorry that's what the problem is. But at least you found it early on. No way can you seal a block once you hit water. I ended up buying a new block for my customer when I hit water clearancing it. I made him pay for new rod bolts. The heads on those bolts were absolutely huge. I bet you have a similar set of rod bolts.

[Yama-Bro]

Major bummer! Best of luck with the new block!

[adubbelde]

Pictures please

[GoDadGo]

Pictures please

I can't post pictures to save my life so I'll be doing a YOUTUBE this weekend and will post it on Sunday.

NOTE: The posting picture thing is NOT a forum problem, but the end user stinks at this stuff.

End User >>---------> Go-Dad-Go / aka: Steve

[Al_C]

One piece of advice I got when I started out was there is nothing you can't fix or re-do on your build. It may cost a little time and (maybe a lot of) money, but you can recover from just about anything. I have a bunch of mistakes hanging from the garage wall. I bet you do, too, but the block might be a bit cumbersome to display. Maybe you can re-purpose it. A planter with 8 daisies? A really big paper weight for really big bank contracts? A boat anchor? I know you'll get pretty creative, Steve!

[Gumball]

This'll all be water under the bridge (sorry for that) once you have one of these sitting in the shop. Well, not exactly one of these - yours will be the Chevy version!!!!

[Taz Rules]

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Proud of you for pushing through.

To me the worst is not the problem, but the potential loss of a friendship after all those years. Hopefully that doesn't happen, but it's always difficult when mentors become human in our eyes.

[GoDadGo]

Dart Block Ordered!

[Papa]

Dart Block Ordered!

Way to go, Steve!

[RickP]

yeah man!

[KDubU]

Well that sucks Steve about your engine guy but damn a dart block is a nice way to get over it.

[GoDadGo]

Here Is My Final Update To This String!

1. . Last evening I called my Former Motor Mentor / aka: Mr. Boyd Breaux of Slidell Louisiana to discuss the issue with my engine.
2. . I explained to him that I had found the source of the water and that it was coming from the lower water jackets of the block.
3. . I also explained to him how surprised I was when I found J/B Weld or some other substance in two areas different spots.
4. . I advised him that if the block was not capable of handling my H-Beam Rods or if he simply hit a water jacket by accident, then he should have let me know.
5. . For the record, I did explain how disappointed I was especially since he wanted to put block sealer in my engine post water leak.
6. . That action in my mind was his attempt to simply cover and/or hide his tracks.
7. . During the conversation, he was advised that if he had any honor at all, then he would return the funds I paid him to build the engine.
8. . The conversation became tense and I calmly informed him that he had no honor which was sad.
9. . I advised him that I would pray for God to give him some honor and that I was turning him over to God.
10. At this point, I do not expect any return of any funds and I'm not exactly okay with that, but his choices are his and his honor is non-existent.

Shown Below Is The Gentleman Of Whom I Speak In The Attached Picture Between Baby Go-Dad & Yours Truly.


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/attac...3&d=1460085283

[CraigS]

Did you pay him w/ a credit card? If so, file a claim.

[Mark Dougherty]

I have been following Steve
sorry to hear of your troubles

[GoDadGo]

CraigS,
I am on the dark side of banking so I'm well versed in collecting and restructuring of bad and/or troubled debt in the Consumer & Commercial Arenas. I also have an abundance of attorneys that will assist me at little or not cost; however, is it worth my trouble?

Mark,
You've helped so many folks get their stalled projects going again and I'm sure have seen many Boo-Boos made by less experienced wrench swingers. My big gripe is the lack of honesty and his willingness to hide his tracks having known this man since I was my son's age.

[Gumball]

Not sure this is the appropriate thing to share here, but a friend of mine once reminded me of two things about people in our car hobby.....

1) All of us car-guys are "users" to some extent. He meant this in a friendly way... i.e., we all look to others to be there whenever we need them.

2) Some people just can't afford integrity. This one was a bit more cynical and, unfortunately, something I've found to be true on more than one occasion.

[GoDadGo]

Not sure this is the appropriate thing to share here, but a friend of mine once reminded me of two things about people in our car hobby.....

1) All of us car-guys are "users" to some extent. He meant this in a friendly way... i.e., we all look to others to be there whenever we need them.

2) Some people just can't afford integrity. This one was a bit more cynical and, unfortunately, something I've found to be true on more than one occasion.

Chris,

Amen!
Can't wait to build the motor myself once the block is in punched .030 over and ready to go.
Integrity is something that you either have or you don't.
Could Not Agree More!

Steve

[Papa]

Chris,

Amen!
Can't wait to build the motor myself once the block is in punched .030 over and ready to go.
Integrity is something that you either have or you don't.
Could Not Agree More!

Steve

Steve,

Back in my Army days I was taught that Integrity is how a person acts when they know no one is watching. I wonder how your builder would have responded had you been there when the mistake was made?

Dave

[RoadRacer]

Steve,

Back in my Army days I was taught that Integrity is how a person acts when they know no one is watching. I wonder how you builder would have responded had you been there when the mistake was made?

Dave

Damn straight. I'm a little jealous though Steve.. when the pain wears off you will be left with a good story and a truly killer motor.

[PeteH]

Steve,
I have been following this thread and truly am sorry to hear how it is playing out. You are a man of infinite patience and integrity. You are correct that your attitude is everything, and sometimes better to just get on with it rather than dwell on it. Mr. Breaux's reputation is now known in these circles.
You'll have a soundly built screamer when finished, and will sleep well at night knowing what went into it!

[RR20AC]

Sorry for your pain, this is suppose to be fun. I personally waited most my life to do this and I guess others are not very supportive.