Looks beautiful! I'm trying to get a ballpark for total material used. I really like a few of VViViD's colors, but am not sure which roll size to start with. Thanks!
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Looks beautiful! I'm trying to get a ballpark for total material used. I really like a few of VViViD's colors, but am not sure which roll size to start with. Thanks!
FFR Build Status: Reset button hit
'03 Subaru Impreza eSi RHD...because Japan
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
That much? They usually sell 50-55 for a car with top. Did you make a few mistakes and needed to trash some pieces?
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
I've seen elsewhere that it is recommended to add 10-15% if you are new to wrapping over a professional job.
FFR Build Status: Reset button hit
'03 Subaru Impreza eSi RHD...because Japan
It was because of those recommendations that I got 50ft to begin with. The issue I found was that the side panels are very long and if want a single piece run front to back you'll end up with alot of useless material. I made one mistake with a front fender where I had to scrap some material, but to counter that I did not apply any of the base color material to the rear humps. Also I used 5 pieces on the rear bumper to be more conservative.
In total I needed:
60ft x 5ft blue (1 mid size mistake) no rear humps
15ft x 5ft black
10ft x 5ft orange
2 x rolls of knifeless tape
If your experienced at wrapping and conservative with the material then 50ft may be enough. This was my first attempt at wrapping and honestly my side pieces would not be considered "professional quality" had I not done it myself I would be taking it back to the shop for them to redo it. Which means I need more material on top of the list above.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Thank you for making me buy another 20ft. Good thing is TODAY ONLY Vvivid is selling at 20% discount with "LOVEDAY" coupon.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Car looks great! I do have a couple questions on your build - 1) I ran through the pages real quick, I didn't see any details on the headlights - custom? 2) The outside door handles - what are they off of? What all was required to add them?
1) See the "Old Headlight Thread" http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...ts-(old)/page3
2) Handles are from a Fiat. The install was very easy, almost as if they were made for this car.
Handles: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post208880
Install: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post208825
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Really a great looking car with a lot of attention to detail. I wished I had of looked you up when I was in Dallas recently.
Would you say you balance is typical? Seems some were lighter in the front?
"Scotty, give me all the TRACTION she's got!" Pictures of what I drive till 818R is finished
Track Car Journal on IWSTI (with build info)
I'm not sure what typical is for this car. In the front I have a sway bar, ABS module, standard lead battery, steel LCAs, reinforced hood, AWIC radiator, speakers. I've also added sound deadener mat all around the cockpit, rubber undercoating to all the body panels and some of the aluminum panels. Hitting the 818kg mark was not a high priority for me so there are a lot of places where I could lose weight/mass.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Cross weights are right on, I assume you are not going to track the car a lot ?
Tony Nadalin
2018 SOVREN Big Bore Champion
2015 SCCA Oregon Region VP3 Champion
2012 ICSCC ITE Class Champion
FFR MkII Challenge Car, Spec Racer, Street Legal, SCCA, ICSCC and NASA Racing
818R Build in progress
It will see track time Just not sure how much.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Wayne Presley www.verycoolparts.com
Xterminator 705 RWHP supercharged 4.6 DOHC with twin turbos
Looks awesome! Congrats
Dan
818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14
Great award! Well deserved!
Just noticed your rear tires are quite inside the fenders. You have 255s?
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Well done! It validates your awesome build.
That is too cool! Well deserved.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
I'm impressed, I have 265s without spacers and they barely fit, will probably rub (fender-wise).
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Man your car looks great and a ride to be really proud of, congrats.
Time to move on to bigger and better projects!
For sale at: http://r.ebay.com/mFjASd
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
nice you got the obligatory car show plaque. next stop is one of those creepy leaning dolls.
selling already? you didn't even get a full summer of driving out of it.
GLWS
edit:
"Hybrid 2.5L Subaru Boxster STI "
Last edited by longislandwrx; 09-06-2017 at 03:52 PM.
A well stocked beverage fridge is the key to any successful project.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
I'm disappointed, your car looks really awesome. But in the end it's a matter of progressing in your fun and projects, so I support your sale.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Looks great Josh
Wayne Presley www.verycoolparts.com
Xterminator 705 RWHP supercharged 4.6 DOHC with twin turbos
I'm interested in how much you put into it (both hard cash and time) vs. how much you sold it for. It's generally accepted that all kits are money losers unless you can turn them over very efficiently.
That's difficult to answer. I think you need to decide whether you are building a kit as a hobby or as a business. I believe if your build it as a hobby then your time should not be factored into the price as its for enjoyment or a learning experience. If your trying to turn a profit you would need to come up with a build model that minimizes build time and parts cost while maintaining a high standard of quality. While the latter of these would be interesting to design I personally would not want to actually take part in the actual build/s.
To answer your question about my build cash cost plus time cost was around $55K-60K. Cash cost only $35K-$40K. Since I built it for fun and learning and got to do some autocross and driving afterwards I think it was well worth it. I should also mention that this kit introduced me to a number of great people and new friends; introduced me to autoX and track days; I'm now building a Spec Miata racecar and doing the build out myself; I also perform all the service on my daily driver. If you consider all this then I definitely came out ahead.
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Like (most) race cars (or kit cars), don't expect a good $$ return on your investment- the fun factor in building and driving it is the best you can do.
I used to try to make myself feel better about my race cars by considering what the "arrive and drive" or rental types pay for a weekend. At those rates, you can justify a lot of the costs of building or buying if you do a even a few races per year. 'Agreed on the benefit of meeting great people along the way!
Last edited by Frank818; 09-27-2017 at 07:51 PM.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com
Yeah 1.5 years full time, at the minimum. Then if I take your way of calculation, I'm off the charts. lolll But that being said, your wrap is astonishing and the buyer has to take that into account. That work alone is worth a lot of money.
And yeah you did build fast! Sticking to H4 saves a lot of time.
Frank
818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 Turbo GT3582R
Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017
Build time before being driveable on Sep 27, 2019: over 6000h
Build Completed Winter 2021
Loving the colors, and planning to try to wrap my car as well, so you and Frank are clearly inspirations to follow when I get to that step. On the black and orange, how do you apply the different colors? Would love any tips you have there on getting the seams right when you do that too.
-Steve
Quick update on what I've been doing:
About a year and a half ago I bought a 92' Miata and have been building it out for Spec Miata racing. The build is now finished and I've been running the car mostly on HPDE track days. Last month tho we took it out for its first competition event a Champ Car endurance race at Harris Hills Raceway. During race 1 of 2 we had the engine blow out spectacularly, complete with fireball under the car. Our team spent the entire night successfully swapping the engine. On the next day, second race, we ended up 9th of 42 overall and 5th of 17 in our class. I'm super excited and looking forward to running more events.
I've got build photos and videos from various track events on my youtube channel.
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/0OUqztB5Ganwn2DybZOOx04A8SlvsOu0DKbtWqGyyAQ
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...mhMveYuGBr7sGC
Car on the day I picked it up. Paid about $1,600
2017-04-01_12-55-46_192.jpg
On grid for its first competition race.
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818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
Ordered: 9/19/14 Received Kit: 11/2/14 First Start: 5/31/15 First Drive: 6/7/15 Registered: 3/10/2016 Completed: 2/10/2017
Status: Complete Build Thread Sold 9/22/2017
joshuajach.com